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RottenApple wrote:

JALLEN wrote:What is a "TCLEOSE?"

If one takes and is certified as a NRA Pistol Instructor and Firearms Safety Instructor, is that equivalent for Texas purposes?

Texas Commission on Law Enforcement Officers Standards and Education

According to TX GC §411.190:

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GC §411.190. QUALIFIED HANDGUN INSTRUCTORS. (a) The director may certify as a qualified handgun instructor a person who:
(1) is certified by the [b][Texas][/b] Commission on Law Enforcement Officer Standards and Education [b](aka "TCLEOSE")[/b] or under Chapter 1702, Occupations Code, to instruct others in the use of handguns;
(2) regularly instructs others in the use of handguns and has graduated from a handgun instructor school that uses a nat ionally accepted course designed to train persons as handgun instructors; or
[color=#FF0000](3) is certified by the National Rifle Association of America as a handgun instructor.[/color]

BOLD text added by me. Any of these 3 provide the necessary qualifications.

Uuuuuhhhh...... slightly off topic, but if you enclose text in code tags, then any text formatting tags to not work.

Carry on....

The Annoyed Man wrote:

RottenApple wrote:

JALLEN wrote:What is a "TCLEOSE?"

If one takes and is certified as a NRA Pistol Instructor and Firearms Safety Instructor, is that equivalent for Texas purposes?

Texas Commission on Law Enforcement Officers Standards and Education

According to TX GC §411.190:

Code: Select all

GC §411.190. QUALIFIED HANDGUN INSTRUCTORS. (a) The director may certify as a qualified handgun instructor a person who:
(1) is certified by the [b][Texas][/b] Commission on Law Enforcement Officer Standards and Education [b](aka "TCLEOSE")[/b] or under Chapter 1702, Occupations Code, to instruct others in the use of handguns;
(2) regularly instructs others in the use of handguns and has graduated from a handgun instructor school that uses a nat ionally accepted course designed to train persons as handgun instructors; or
[color=#FF0000](3) is certified by the National Rifle Association of America as a handgun instructor.[/color]

BOLD text added by me. Any of these 3 provide the necessary qualifications.

Uuuuuhhhh...... slightly off topic, but if you enclose text in code tags, then any text formatting tags to not work.

Carry on....

Thanks, TAM. I'll remember that in the future.

So in other words, you still have to take two classes, but they can be combined at one time.

RossA wrote:So in other words, you still have to take two classes, but they can be combined at one time.

No. The BIT class is not a standalone class. Most all NRA instructor classes include the BIT along with whatever discipline you are taking. Take a look at the instructor classes at http://www.nrainstructors.org. You won't see the BIT there. But if you search for the NRA Instructor Pistol (or rifle, shotgun, etc), you'll see that most* all of them state that they are a "BIT class".

*Note: The reason why not all will include the BIT is because if your BIT is current, you don't need to retake it to add additional disciplines.

So if we get NRA certification, does it have to be renewed from time to time? Sounds like a money making scheme for someone. Do you have to be an NRA member to get NRA certification?

RossA wrote:So if we get NRA certification, does it have to be renewed from time to time? Sounds like a money making scheme for someone. Do you have to be an NRA member to get NRA certification?

The initial cert is for one year. Subsequent renewals are multi-year. And no, you don't have to be a member, but the cert fees are slightly less. Class fees are determined by the instructors themselves.

So how about a group deal from some NRA instructor in Houston?

RossA wrote:So how about a group deal from some NRA instructor in Houston?

You need a Training Counselor to teach the instructor courses, not an instructor. Check the NRA Instructor website I linked above for classes in your area and give a few a call about a group deal.

ETA: As an instructor, I do group deals all the time, but I'm not a TC.