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Re: Tomball Student with Shotgun in Truck

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:37 pm
by RottenApple
RX8er wrote:RottenApple, I have to disagree if I am reading the GFZA correctly. If you are not a CHL, you can have one that is unloaded and in a locked compartment.
(iii) that is— (I) not loaded; and (II) in a locked container, or a locked firearms rack that is on a motor vehicle;
Good catch. That'll teach me not to go from memory.

In any case, unless the student had the firearm "in a locked container, or a locked firearms rack that is on a motor vehicle", then he is guilty of violating the GSFZ. I'll be interested in seeing if the Feds go after him for it or if the state tries to claim he's guilty of something else.

Re: Tomball Student with Shotgun in Truck

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:39 pm
by Keith B
RottenApple wrote:
RX8er wrote:RottenApple, I have to disagree if I am reading the GFZA correctly. If you are not a CHL, you can have one that is unloaded and in a locked compartment.
(iii) that is— (I) not loaded; and (II) in a locked container, or a locked firearms rack that is on a motor vehicle;
Good catch. That'll teach me not to go from memory.

In any case, unless the student had the firearm "in a locked container, or a locked firearms rack that is on a motor vehicle", then he is guilty of violating the GSFZ. I'll be interested in seeing if the Feds go after him for it or if the state tries to claim he's guilty of something else.
My guess is there will be no legal charges, but a exuplsion from school will occur.

Re: Tomball Student with Shotgun in Truck

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:55 pm
by JP171
my understanding is that a political subdivision of the state may indeed make laws or ordinances, school districts are political subdivisions of the state as evidenced by the district police, they do take parents and children to JP's courts under the FOB Local those are infact written by the school districts, so umm just like a MUD can make an ordinance/law about things within the MUD District concerning the use and appropriation of the natural resource of water and so forth as in taxes so can a school district and they do. it takes the state legislature to stop them. so yep its laws. but basically the student did violate the gfsz act under the fact he had a weapon that wasn't either under a CHL or locked in a safe or locking rack

Re: Tomball Student with Shotgun in Truck

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:30 pm
by Keith B
JP171 wrote:my understanding is that a political subdivision of the state may indeed make laws or ordinances, school districts are political subdivisions of the state as evidenced by the district police, they do take parents and children to JP's courts under the FOB Local those are infact written by the school districts, so umm just like a MUD can make an ordinance/law about things within the MUD District concerning the use and appropriation of the natural resource of water and so forth as in taxes so can a school district and they do. it takes the state legislature to stop them. so yep its laws. but basically the student did violate the gfsz act under the fact he had a weapon that wasn't either under a CHL or locked in a safe or locking rack
Please point to me in the government code or educaiton code where a school district has the capability to make its own laws. I don't think you will find it.

Re: Tomball Student with Shotgun in Truck

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:09 pm
by howdy
NBC Houston just said all charges have been dropped against the student....reason being the "parking lot is not part of the school"

Re: Tomball Student with Shotgun in Truck

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:25 pm
by bizarrenormality
After what happened with the teacher in Houston so recently, the arresting officers cops in a Houston suburb have no excuse for not knowing the law about unloaded firearms in a vehicle trunk or toolbox. In a world with any justice, they would be sued personally and the student would win enough to pay for four years at the most expensive college in the country. Let's see if there's any justice left in the Texas courts.

Re: Tomball Student with Shotgun in Truck

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:05 pm
by C-dub
And I did walk up hill to and from school in the snow. My house was on one hill and my school was on another hill. However, it was only about one mile away, not 5. But, alas, I did not take a gun to school.

Re: Tomball Student with Shotgun in Truck

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:29 pm
by rp_photo
howdy wrote:We will continue to take every measure to ensure the safety of our students. It is important for parents take a moment to remind their children about the importance of being..."
Students were very safe back decades ago when students did this routinely.

We're barking up the wrong tree as far as the dangers.