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Re: Obama can drone strike in the US per holder?

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:40 pm
by sjfcontrol
powerboatr wrote:sort of gets you thinking

maybe it times to dig some very deep holes to hid in

I am out in the open so to speak, only three homes on my street now
Are they disappearing?

Re: Obama can drone strike in the US per holder?

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:49 pm
by C-dub
mamabearCali wrote:Ted Cruz was wonderful on this! He kicked butt.
Yes he was! He got Holder to admit that killing a U.S. citizen without a warrant, day in court, or who was not an imminent threat to the country or anyone else was unconstitutional. It was beautiful. Then he announced he would be introducing legislation that would spell all that out and hoped he would get the DOJs support for that legislation. :lol:

Re: Obama can drone strike in the US per holder?

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:32 am
by TexasGal
Ted Cruz to Holder: :rules: :rules: :cup:
I love Ted Cruz :thewave

Re: Obama can drone strike in the US per holder?

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:08 am
by CowboyEngineer
These are the same communist thugs that preached putting terrorist in Guantanamo in order to protect American lives was a war crime and that the lawyers who wrote the opinion on water boarding should be disbarred and brought to trial. Funny how killing Americans on American soil without a trial, is not that big of a deal to them. Maybe the guys with the tin foil hats were right on this one. I can't help but think that something nasty is coming.

Re: Obama can drone strike in the US per holder?

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:37 am
by anygunanywhere
This puts the killing of US Citizens without due process in the proper perspective.

Our Disinitegrating Government

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We all know there are disparities in the process and always have been. But there's a difference between the foibles of mankind -- everyone has their bias, and there is no such thing as a human process that is flawless -- and intentional, designed-in or willful refusal to prosecute certain people for acts that land others in prison.

The latter is the defining action of a dictatorship.
Anygunanywhere

Re: Obama can drone strike in the US per holder?

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:41 am
by stevie_d_64
TexasGal wrote:I believe this administration is certain there will be a serious breakdown of social order generally or by some groups. They obviously believe they will be able to use drone strikes on citizens without personal or political jeopardy. None of the scenarios meeting those conditions are good.
They are certainly fomenting an acceptable social/political environment (for the low-information citizenry) where this may become that "extreme circumstance"...

But it amazes me that the President of the United States, with the blessing of an IMPEACHED Attorney General would even be public about this position...

Killing American citizens on American soil, without due process??? Come on!!! Even the lawyers in this group know that smells like something unmentionable per the posting rules of this forum...

Some might be able to draw a very drastic conclusion in that they may very well feel threatened by the potential un-Constitutional use of deadly force in this case...Without due process...

And by "reasonably" determining that their own personal use of force and deadly force (per state law), in this case, to protect themselves, could and might very well be justified...

How that would really work is up for debate, but I think there may be some who might think like that...

Honestly, I'm just throwing out an "extreme circumstance" as a possible answer to another "extreme circumstance"...