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OldCannon wrote:if you want to know where all your ammo is going, look at the morning lines at each Academy. People are stockpiling thousands, if not tens of thousands, of rounds of ammo. _Everybody_ is panic-buying stuff the moment it shows up (including police departments). which is resulting in a dramatic scarcity. I don't expect this will slow down until late summer/early fall.

I was talking about this with a friend yesterday. Telling him how I have to control the urge to buy another 400+ shotgun shells whenever I see them at a Wally World. I have plenty, probably enough to last me a year or two if I didn't buy any for that time, but it's become somewhat obsessive to buy it when it's there in case it won't be there some day. He said the same thing about him and he doesn't even shoot that much. My supply would probably last him for the rest of his life as much as he shoots.

Some of it may still be panic buying, but some of it is an obsession/conditioned response now. If it's on the shelf I gotta buy it. I told him I was buying ammo whenever I could for the last 1-1.5 years because of the upcoming election and remembering what happened in 2008. He said he wished he's listened to me about that then and bought the ammo when he could have, even though he didn't feel the need to use it then, instead of waiting until now, when he'd like to start shooting more again.

chasfm11 wrote:
I've gotten to the point where if Comrade Janet says that the sun rises in the east, I immediately run to a window. I cannot remember a statement from the current administration that didn't contain at least some twisted truth if not an outright lie.

Uhm... it does.

While i don't trust the government, i agree with this article. We are causing the shortage. I have 5000 .223, 3000 9mm, and 2000 .40, yet i pick up whatever they will sell me whenever i run across some. I do shoot a lot and want to maintain a certain level. Is there anyone on this site that does not buy ammo when you see some available, whether you "need" it or not?
By the way, anyone know where i can get .45 for the 1911 i ordered? (What a time to add another caliber to the collection!)

Rhino1 wrote:Is there anyone on this site that does not buy ammo when you see some available, whether you "need" it or not?

Only if it's pre-panic pricing. I am actually low on 9mm JHP, though... For a while the plan was to buy a box per month until I had 1k rounds stocked up, but I let the practice lapse and didn't realize it until it was "too late".

The comments posted following the article were most telling. Those consumed with the "DHS is going to get us" paradigm resorted to ad hominem attacks on the author and any of the posters who disagreed with their position, quite nastily. Every single urban myth in regards DHS, from death camps to coffin storage, MRAPs to JSOC training, was brought forward to reinforce said paradigm. The consumer caused ammunition shortage was still laid at the feet of the DHS because they "created the environment" in which it is occurring, not the "Blog Pimps", great term by the way, who created and continue to fuel the controversy.
While I'm the last one to ascribe to the "We Are With the Government, and Here To Help You!" school of thought, just reviewing the many threads on this board that, if the posters were telling the truth, list purchases made and rounds accumulated would give the thoughtful reader plenty of evidence to support the linked article's veracity.
I had the opportunity to visit my sister a few weeks ago and found that she was no longer able to park in her homes garage due to the ever growing stacks of ammunition my BIL has acquired. The BIL is an at best a 100 rounds a year shooter, probably closer to 25 per year truth be told for zeroing before heading down to the deer lease, why he has 17k + rounds of ammunition, stacks of new and once shot brass, primers, powders, bullets and an unopened Hornady press and assorted dies, a work bench, unassembled of course, etc. I have no earthly idea.
Could one suppose that there are other folks in the same situation? How many and how have they impacted availability?
We don't need the "GOP" to save us, we need to save ourselves.
Just my two cents.

The ammo shortage is a sign of the extreme distrust and abject fear that has developed reguarding our Government. No one trusts them and are arming accordingly.

Hamourkiller wrote:The ammo shortage is a sign of the extreme distrust and abject fear that has developed reguarding our Government. No one trusts them and are arming accordingly.

We are acting this way because essentially everything the government does is unconstitutional, unethical, or patently illegal.

Anygunanwhere

Anygunanywhere and JMRA wil save us!

Dadtodabone wrote:The comments posted following the article were most telling. Those consumed with the "DHS is going to get us" paradigm resorted to ad hominem attacks on the author and any of the posters who disagreed with their position, quite nastily. Every single urban myth in regards DHS, from death camps to coffin storage, MRAPs to JSOC training, was brought forward to reinforce said paradigm. The consumer caused ammunition shortage was still laid at the feet of the DHS because they "created the environment" in which it is occurring, not the "Blog Pimps", great term by the way, who created and continue to fuel the controversy.
While I'm the last one to ascribe to the "We Are With the Government, and Here To Help You!" school of thought, just reviewing the many threads on this board that, if the posters were telling the truth, list purchases made and rounds accumulated would give the thoughtful reader plenty of evidence to support the linked article's veracity.
I had the opportunity to visit my sister a few weeks ago and found that she was no longer able to park in her homes garage due to the ever growing stacks of ammunition my BIL has acquired. The BIL is an at best a 100 rounds a year shooter, probably closer to 25 per year truth be told for zeroing before heading down to the deer lease, why he has 17k + rounds of ammunition, stacks of new and once shot brass, primers, powders, bullets and an unopened Hornady press and assorted dies, a work bench, unassembled of course, etc. I have no earthly idea.
Could one suppose that there are other folks in the same situation? How many and how have they impacted availability?
We don't need the "GOP" to save us, we need to save ourselves.
Just my two cents.

Unassembled and unopened you say? Hmmm, would he want to part with it? If I can't afford it, I'm sure there's someone else here that can.

anygunanywhere wrote:

Hamourkiller wrote:The ammo shortage is a sign of the extreme distrust and abject fear that has developed reguarding our Government. No one trusts them and are arming accordingly.

We are acting this way because essentially everything the government does is unconstitutional, unethical, or patently illegal.

Anygunanwhere

Truer words were never spoken. Americans are preparing for war, because they believe that's what their government wants. The government is acting in ways that work to reinforce that belief.

At one time there was thought to be a balance between the really crazy politicians like Dianne Feinstein and Chuck Schumer and the ones who realized their dreams of a disarmed populace were wrong. Now it seems all of the Democrats and even a few of the Republicans think that way and the administration darn sure does. So Americans see the fortress of checks and balances crumbling around them as the idiots in government spend us into oblivion and drive us toward the day when desperate people will act with desperation and society collapses.

I never could figure out what the DHS was gonna do with all the .22LR that I cant seem to find!

C-dub wrote:

Dadtodabone wrote:The comments posted following the article were most telling. Those consumed with the "DHS is going to get us" paradigm resorted to ad hominem attacks on the author and any of the posters who disagreed with their position, quite nastily. Every single urban myth in regards DHS, from death camps to coffin storage, MRAPs to JSOC training, was brought forward to reinforce said paradigm. The consumer caused ammunition shortage was still laid at the feet of the DHS because they "created the environment" in which it is occurring, not the "Blog Pimps", great term by the way, who created and continue to fuel the controversy.
While I'm the last one to ascribe to the "We Are With the Government, and Here To Help You!" school of thought, just reviewing the many threads on this board that, if the posters were telling the truth, list purchases made and rounds accumulated would give the thoughtful reader plenty of evidence to support the linked article's veracity.
I had the opportunity to visit my sister a few weeks ago and found that she was no longer able to park in her homes garage due to the ever growing stacks of ammunition my BIL has acquired. The BIL is an at best a 100 rounds a year shooter, probably closer to 25 per year truth be told for zeroing before heading down to the deer lease, why he has 17k + rounds of ammunition, stacks of new and once shot brass, primers, powders, bullets and an unopened Hornady press and assorted dies, a work bench, unassembled of course, etc. I have no earthly idea.
Could one suppose that there are other folks in the same situation? How many and how have they impacted availability?
We don't need the "GOP" to save us, we need to save ourselves.
Just my two cents.

Unassembled and unopened you say? Hmmm, would he want to part with it? If I can't afford it, I'm sure there's someone else here that can.

lol, I'll let my sister know. I doubt you could get the stuff away from him with pry bars, 3 strong men and a boy right now.

More fuel for the fire: http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/04/dhs-t ... -shortage/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

jmra wrote:

longtooth wrote:Class this day. She sheep are getting ready to morph into DOGS.

"she sheep". Is it an all female class? Were they homely to begin with or do you plan a makeover to turn them into dogs? Am I the only one who thinks this is funny or do ewe too?

aka 'ewes guys.'

wheelgun1958 wrote:

jmra wrote:

longtooth wrote:Class this day. She sheep are getting ready to morph into DOGS.

"she sheep". Is it an all female class? Were they homely to begin with or do you plan a makeover to turn them into dogs? Am I the only one who thinks this is funny or do ewe too?

aka 'ewes guys.'

Oh no. That's a good one.