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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:38 pm
by Operators Edge
The ONLY way to carry a 1911 using all it's safety's is CONDITION 1! That's how and why the John Browning design came about. Yes, John Browning invented the 1911. Any other way of carry with a round chambered is VERY VERY BAD! ALWAYS learn all you can about a weapon and how to carry it, as well as how and WHEN are it's safety's engaged.

Same problem as other mike
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:47 am
by mikerlynn
Mike - I just got a kimber ultra carry II with CT as well - my names mike too - so I almost thought you were me as i read your posting : ) I have the same issue as you. I am a bit paranoid to carry it cocked w/saftey on. I am worried that something else will hit the firing pin - to me, I'd rather not carry then be paranoid about an accident - I'd hate to be shot with my own gun or worse. I dont think anyone can say anything to remove that fear from me. I'll probably just carry it where I'll have to pull it back to use it.
I have a S&W 3913 with the safety release and I would be more comfortable carrying that instead - but i did just buy a 1100 gun....
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:50 am
by Mike from Texas
OK, thanks for everyone's input.
The one's I'm considering are:
1) Tucker "Answer" with the V-Clips. Seems to be the best of both worlds between Kydex and leather. And you absolutely cannot argue with their warranty. Lead time sucks though. Pricing for holster, double mag pouch and belt is $284.
2) Broomeland Max Con V. Looks to be an excellent all leather holster. Not sure on lead time. Pricing for holster, double mag pouch and belt is $265.
3) Comp-Tac Infidel or C-TAC. Would really like some feedback on these and why you would choose one over the other.
Is there any advantage to Kydex over leather?
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:52 am
by jbirds1210
Mike-
Try carrying it around the house for a week empty in condition 1. Simulate your daily life.....the hammer will not drop with a good holster.
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:58 am
by pbandjelly
two words: Grip Safety
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:02 am
by Mike1951
mikerlynn wrote: I dont think anyone can say anything to remove that fear from me. I'll probably just carry it where I'll have to pull it back to use it.
DON'T!!!! This is absolutely the most dangerous thing you could do.
Either get comfortable with carrying the 1911 cocked and locked or get another carry gun.
why is it dangerous?
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:06 am
by mikerlynn
Mike1951 wrote:mikerlynn wrote: I dont think anyone can say anything to remove that fear from me. I'll probably just carry it where I'll have to pull it back to use it.
DON'T!!!! This is absolutely the most dangerous thing you could do.
Either get comfortable with carrying the 1911 cocked and locked or get another carry gun.
Can you explain why it is dangerous?
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:10 am
by Mike1951
Trying to cock the hammer in a tense situation is asking for an ND.
The grip safety might or might not be depressed while doing this, so you have NO safeguards.
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:11 am
by pbandjelly
if you aren't ready to fire when you unsheath your smoke wagon, the time it takes you to cock it could really cost you.
or if you want to carry without one in the chamber, more time off the clock, so to speak.
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:28 am
by mikerlynn
Mike1951 wrote:Trying to cock the hammer in a tense situation is asking for an ND.
The grip safety might or might not be depressed while doing this, so you have NO safeguards.
This is probably to cover there(Edited 10 Year Old Daughter Rule

carlson1) - but still... from the kimber owner manual
http://www.kimberamerica.com/downloads/ ... ompact.pdf
Safe Carrying Condition: Never carry this pistol cocked, loaded and ready to fire as this practice could easily result in an unintentional discharge. Do not carry a loaded gun with a live round in the chamber while walking, running or crossing any obstacle, where there is any possibility of slipping or falling as this could lead to a possible unintentional discharge.
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:04 pm
by Liberty
mikerlynn wrote:
This is probably to cover there(Edited 10 Year Old Daughter Rule

carlson1) - but still... from the kimber owner manual
Whats wrong with the 3 letter word for donkey. Its used in the King James version of the bible. I believe we would all allow our 10 year old daughters to read that. I certainly wouldn't expect her to ride a donkey mule or horse without the beast being properly fitted with a blanket.
just kidding, I guess some folks were more protective about language than I am. I wouldn't have thought that word would come under scrutiny. It's hard to know where the line is crossed some times.
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:30 pm
by Mike from Texas
No one has any input on the holsters I asked about?
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:45 pm
by Mike1951
Mike from Texas wrote:1) Tucker "Answer" with the V-Clips. Seems to be the best of both worlds between Kydex and leather. And you absolutely cannot argue with their warranty. Lead time stinks though. Pricing for holster, double mag pouch and belt is $284.
Great holster. Very comfortable.
You don't have to buy Tucker's belt and mag pouch. For IWB, a Bianchi nylon mag pouch will do as well for less than $25. For belts, folks here have recommended
http://www.thebeltman.net.
Save Tucker's belt and mag pouch for when you order one of his fabulous HF1 rigs.
But there are some makers that have good quality belts for as little as $30-40.
Mike from Texas wrote:Is there any advantage to Kydex over leather?
Kydex offers faster presentation and easier reholstering. It does wear finish faster than leather.
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:06 am
by gigag04
Carrying a 1911 in condition is the only way. A milt sparks VMII is what I used when I owned a 1911 for carry, and I love d it. No worries about safety.
Ask txi about thumbreak safety and 1911 carry.
New Ultra carry owner
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 9:20 am
by jbaugh
Yesterday I bought a Kimber Ultra Carry II to use in place of my Glock 36 for concealed carry. While Googling to get suggestions for a holster I found this forum. It looks like a great place to visit for exchange of ideas.
I am very interested in as many suggestions as possible for a good IWB holster with maximum comfort and concealability. What do you think about holsters with built-in shirt tuck devices? I would also be interested in knowing how owners of the Ultra Carry wear their holsters. I have not yet gotten completely comfortable with my current practice which is to wear my holster just in front of my hip (I think this is called "appendix carry"?). I have been experimenting with carrying in my NRA spandex "holster shirt". This provides excellent concealment but limits accessibility to a significant extent.
I look forward to following this discussion.
John