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Re: Chicago med school to admit undocumented students
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:03 am
by Jaguar
Future government employees for when we have nationalized health care.
Re: Chicago med school to admit undocumented students
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:45 am
by SRH78
Re: Chicago med school to admit undocumented students
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:14 am
by rotor
There is only one good thing to say about this program and that is that at least they are going to pick the cream of the crop as students and not what they have been doing, taking poorly qualified students to meet "quotas" and turning out a bunch of dumb doctors. Perhaps they are really doing this to improve the IQ of their classes, knowing that so many of their US students are really only in medical school because they are in some affirmative action program. You have to delve deeper into these stories sometimes to find the real reason. Let's say they have 100 positions per year, they take 80 smart students and 20 affirmative action but not so bright students. Or, they can take 80 smart students and 20 really smart (but undocumented) students. Now they have 100 really smart kids. And once those students get out if they are illegal (or whatever is pc) they will become citizens ( and probably republicans). And the school can brag that they are offering diversity when in actuality they are really doing what they should do, only take the cream of the crop. Just my thought.
Re: Chicago med school to admit undocumented students
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:42 am
by anygunanywhere
rotor wrote:There is only one good thing to say about this program and that is that at least they are going to pick the cream of the crop as students and not what they have been doing, taking poorly qualified students to meet "quotas" and turning out a bunch of dumb doctors. Perhaps they are really doing this to improve the IQ of their classes, knowing that so many of their US students are really only in medical school because they are in some affirmative action program. You have to delve deeper into these stories sometimes to find the real reason. Let's say they have 100 positions per year, they take 80 smart students and 20 affirmative action but not so bright students. Or, they can take 80 smart students and 20 really smart (but undocumented) students. Now they have 100 really smart kids. And once those students get out if they are illegal (or whatever is pc) they will become citizens ( and probably republicans). And the school can brag that they are offering diversity when in actuality they are really doing what they should do, only take the cream of the crop. Just my thought.
There is not a shred of intent in this to pick the cream of the crop. This is all about giving something to illegals and denying something to citizens.
Diversity has never been about doing what is right.
Political correctness has never been about doing what is right.
When something is done to give advantages to someone with the
perceived intent of correcting a wrong a deserving person is denied.
This is wrong in so many ways.
My oldest son graduated from high school #10 in his class. My youngest son graduated #7 in his class. Both of them combined received $500.00 in scholarships.
The University of Texas Admissions department person in charge of scholarships told me to my face that I was too white and made too much money to qualify my son for scholarships.
Anygunanywhere
Re: Chicago med school to admit undocumented students
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:28 pm
by rotor
anygun, I am not saying that is why they are doing it, only perhaps. But, if you had the choice of admitting poorly qualified pc correct students that were citizens or extremely qualified immigrants that will almost certainly become citizens which would you choose? As a matter of fact, if you were the patient, which one would be your doctor? The affirmative action doc that pushed out a bunch of well qualified non-pc students from getting into med school or the illegal immigrant that graduated top of his class in med school and was now a citizen? Sometimes we have to think about whether there might be more to the story than the punchline. In actuality though you are probaby right, the school is sucking up to some federal program to generate money and it is all a sham that degrades well deserving US students from having those seats in the class.
Re: Chicago med school to admit undocumented students
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:32 pm
by rotor
And the quote from the article was
"Loyola expects to receive applications from “the cream of the crop,” Mr. Kuczewski said"
Re: Chicago med school to admit undocumented students
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:38 pm
by Panda
What ivory tower elites expect is not often based on reality.
Re: Chicago med school to admit undocumented students
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 1:05 pm
by anygunanywhere
rotor wrote:anygun, I am not saying that is why they are doing it, only perhaps. But, if you had the choice of admitting poorly qualified pc correct students that were citizens or extremely qualified illegal immigrants that will almost certainly become citizens which would you choose? As a matter of fact, if you were the patient, which one would be your doctor? The affirmative action doc that pushed out a bunch of well qualified non-pc students from getting into med school or the illegal immigrant that graduated top of his class in med school and was now a citizen? Sometimes we have to think about whether there might be more to the story than the punchline. In actuality though you are probaby right, the school is sucking up to some federal program to generate money and it is all a sham that degrades well deserving US students from having those seats in the class.
I fixed part of your post and I appreciate your response; however, I stand by my post because based on my experience my assertions are more correct than any argument thrown up against it.
Anygunanywhere
Re: Chicago med school to admit undocumented students
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 3:10 pm
by bdickens
Well, yeah. That's so they can give out all that great free Obamacare to all the other illegals - you know, the ones who just come here to commit the crimes that Americans won't commit.
Re: Chicago med school to admit undocumented students
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:23 pm
by cb1000rider
bdickens wrote:Well, yeah. That's so they can give out all that great free Obamacare to all the other illegals - you know, the ones who just come here to commit the crimes that Americans won't commit.
I love statements like this. They're so easily refuted with fact:
Illegals got free healthcare before Obamacare. Yea, under both Bush Jr and Bush Sr.
It hasn't changed no matter what political party controlled congress or the presidential office.
Guess who voted those presidents and congress in? We did.
Re: Chicago med school to admit undocumented students
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:57 pm
by gigag04
Jaguar wrote:Future government employees for when we have nationalized health care.
Beat me to it.
Re: Chicago med school to admit undocumented students
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:05 pm
by wheelgun1958
Will they pay foreign student tuition, or in-state? I think I know which.

Re: Chicago med school to admit undocumented students
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:30 pm
by hillfighter
wheelgun1958 wrote:Will they pay foreign student tuition, or in-state? I think I know which.

I think Loyola University is a private school. Probably founded by Jesuits, based on the name.
Re: Chicago med school to admit undocumented students
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:53 am
by anygunanywhere
cb1000rider wrote:bdickens wrote:Well, yeah. That's so they can give out all that great free Obamacare to all the other illegals - you know, the ones who just come here to commit the crimes that Americans won't commit.
I love statements like this. They're so easily refuted with fact:
Illegals got free healthcare before Obamacare. Yea, under both Bush Jr and Bush Sr.
It hasn't changed no matter what political party controlled congress or the presidential office.
Guess who voted those presidents and congress in? We did.
Well, if you want to get right down to it, the greatest perpetrator of ushering in progressivist concepts (read that communist) was FDR and every single dumbocrat since then has had his "Great Experiment" for whatever socialist free gift government he could push through.
Yes, the GOP presidents have had their moments as well, but don't so readily object to statements againts the socialists because their wrongs FAR exceed the right they have accomplished, and at this point we have reached the realization that we can actually think back on slick willie and say "I want him back because he was not as bad as the jerk in the white house now."
Anygunanywhere
Re: Chicago med school to admit undocumented students
Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:28 am
by bdickens
cb1000rider wrote:bdickens wrote:Well, yeah. That's so they can give out all that great free Obamacare to all the other illegals - you know, the ones who just come here to commit the crimes that Americans won't commit.
I love statements like this. They're so easily refuted with fact:
Illegals got free healthcare before Obamacare. Yea, under both Bush Jr and Bush Sr.
It hasn't changed no matter what political party controlled congress or the presidential office.
Guess who voted those presidents and congress in? We did.
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