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Re: Why is Stand Your Ground being attacked?
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 1:33 pm
by The Annoyed Man
In my inbox today from Michael Yon, was a link to this post of his:
http://www.michaelyon-online.com/race-b ... merica.htm
Trayvon Martin was 17 when he was shot. Many people say he was just a “child.”
Let's look at the evidence. 17 year-olds can, and do, join the US military.
At 17, I joined the military and reported for duty when 18. Before graduating from high school, I could bench press 300 pounds and hoist 225 pounds from the floor to over my head with arms locked, weighing less than 148 pounds.
At 17, my high school friend Scott Helvenston became a Navy SEAL. The youngest ever. Some people say this is not possible. To save embarrassment, naysayers might take a minute to Google “Youngest Navy SEAL.”
At 17, Wilfred Benitez was the world champion boxer.
Retired 4-star General Barry McCaffrey mentioned to me the other day that he joined the Army at 17.
At 18, George Bush senior became a Naval aviator and headed off to war. There were many others.
Milton Olive III, 18 years-old. Medal of Honor recipient. Died while saving his buddies by smothering a grenade with his body.
At 19, I was a "Green Beret" and went to jail after accidentally killing someone in what amounted to hand to hand combat.
Hands are lethal weapons......
I have read Yon's book. He did indeed kill a man in a bar with his bare hands. Facts of the case, and guilt or innocence aside, Yon proved that fists can kill.
The full post is worth reading, and it puts the idea of "17 year old children" into stark perspective.
Re: Why is Stand Your Ground being attacked?
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 2:32 pm
by baldeagle
The obvious rejoinder is, yes, but Michal Yon was a trained killer.
And the obvious rejoinder to that is google 1 punch kill. Teenagers (children) kill people every day with one punch.
Re: Why is Stand Your Ground being attacked?
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 2:52 pm
by TexasCajun
And now the Senate libtards are taking the "bait"
http://m.usatoday.com/article/news/2568677
Re: Why is Stand Your Ground being attacked?
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 3:15 pm
by gringo pistolero
Some people side with decent folk. Some people side with thugs. The latter group has always opposed Stand Your Ground laws and are using current events to do The Devil's Work.
Re: Why is Stand Your Ground being attacked?
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 4:00 pm
by Jaguar
I joined the U.S. Army Reserves when I was 17. Completed Basic Training at Fort Leanord Wood, MO between my junior and senior year of high school three months before I turned 18. After Basic went back to high school, graduated, then went to Fort Gordon, GA for AIT.
At 17 I was in the best shape of my life. I could do 200 pushups non-stop, situps until I got tired of counting, and run 2 miles in just under 14 minutes.
Oh, to be young again...
Re: Why is Stand Your Ground being attacked?
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 4:36 pm
by sjfcontrol
Your link doesn't work, but did find this -- ALMOST makes me glad McCain didn't win.
http://m.usatoday.com/article/news/2572629" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Why is Stand Your Ground being attacked?
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:07 pm
by The Annoyed Man
For those of us not using a mobile device:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2 ... n/2572629/
Same old blah blah blah.
Re: Why is Stand Your Ground being attacked?
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:20 pm
by filmtex
[quote="chasfm11"]But he is just a child....
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xjseiw ... urder_news
- 18 year olds were adults who were drafted and forced to fight in Viet Nam.
But not allowed to vote!
Re: Why is Stand Your Ground being attacked?
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:24 am
by OldCurlyWolf
baldeagle wrote:The obvious rejoinder is, yes, but Michal Yon was a trained killer.
And the obvious rejoinder to that is google 1 punch kill. Teenagers (children) kill people every day with one punch.
When I was 17 I knew, without any formal training, how to kill with one punch at least 3 ways and how to permanently cripple with one punch at least 5 different ways. So obviously the trained killer bull is just that. bull!!.
And knowledge does not equate to action. I am 60 now and have never seriously injured nor killed anyone. I hope to maintain that record for years to come.
Re: Why is Stand Your Ground being attacked?
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:06 pm
by Arch Stanton
Re: Why is Stand Your Ground being attacked?
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:31 pm
by sjfcontrol
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Great! A democrat from Illinois is going to (try to) determine what our self-defense rights are. About the LAST person I'd want in that position.
Re: Why is Stand Your Ground being attacked?
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:29 pm
by bdickens
I'm so sick of McCain; his ignorant remarks are just disgusting.
Listen, John, if you're gonna be a Democrat, just go ahead and be a Democrat and stop trying to fool us.
Re: Why is Stand Your Ground being attacked?
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:59 pm
by Dave2
sjfcontrol wrote:
Your link doesn't work
One of the 7s escaped...