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Shinesintx wrote:. I disagree that farmers and ranchers won't let you hunt their place for free....I say that with the belief that you can present yourself well and convince them that you are an honorable person. I've found that most rural folk seem to be better humans than those in the city. If you can help than at no cost, prove worthy of their trust...why not?

Well, the primary answer to that question is liability. Everyone is a nice guy until they get hurt.....then their ATTORNEY isn't so nice.....

BaldEagle....I sent you a PM. Happy to guide for you.....

chuckybrown wrote:

Shinesintx wrote:. I disagree that farmers and ranchers won't let you hunt their place for free....I say that with the belief that you can present yourself well and convince them that you are an honorable person. I've found that most rural folk seem to be better humans than those in the city. If you can help than at no cost, prove worthy of their trust...why not?

Well, the primary answer to that question is liability. Everyone is a nice guy until they get hurt.....then their ATTORNEY isn't so nice.....

I hunt pigs on my brother-in-law's ranch and I have two friends with ranches that I hunt on in the hill country. One of my friends makes everybody using his ranch sign a hold harmless agreement which addresses the liability concern. My other friend with a ranch won't let hunters use his property until he provides a training session where he determines their proficiency and he gives them do's and don'ts. He's had some idiot hunters before so he's careful now about who carries a gun on his ranch.

Without ranch/farm contacts I think the guided hunt idea is a good one. Pigs are incredibly smart and if there's any pressure on them they quickly learn to not appear during the day so if you hunted on farm/ranch land where they are currently hunted, you might walk for hours and not see one (ask me how I know )

Shinesintx wrote:

baldeagle wrote:I should have mentioned I'm interested in hunting hogs for food, not trophies. Killing a bunch of them and picking one or two to butcher and take home would be fine with me.

I liked the idea of doing a guided hunt for your first time. I disagree that farmers and ranchers won't let you hunt their place for free....I say that with the belief that you can present yourself well and convince them that you are an honorable person. I've found that most rural folk seem to be better humans than those in the city. If you can help than at no cost, prove worthy of their trust...why not? Having said that, I don't want you on my place.

I was wondering why you didn't volunteer your 30 acres.

WildBill wrote:

Shinesintx wrote:

baldeagle wrote:I should have mentioned I'm interested in hunting hogs for food, not trophies. Killing a bunch of them and picking one or two to butcher and take home would be fine with me.

I liked the idea of doing a guided hunt for your first time. I disagree that farmers and ranchers won't let you hunt their place for free....I say that with the belief that you can present yourself well and convince them that you are an honorable person. I've found that most rural folk seem to be better humans than those in the city. If you can help than at no cost, prove worthy of their trust...why not? Having said that, I don't want you on my place.

I was wondering why you didn't volunteer your 30 acres.

I think he's afraid I'll kill his pig.

Look at Texasboars.com.

They're a great resource for guided pig hunts.

One of their guides works the Seguin area and is not only very good, but quite reasonable in cost.

baldeagle wrote:

WildBill wrote:

Shinesintx wrote:

baldeagle wrote:I should have mentioned I'm interested in hunting hogs for food, not trophies. Killing a bunch of them and picking one or two to butcher and take home would be fine with me.

I liked the idea of doing a guided hunt for your first time. I disagree that farmers and ranchers won't let you hunt their place for free....I say that with the belief that you can present yourself well and convince them that you are an honorable person. I've found that most rural folk seem to be better humans than those in the city. If you can help than at no cost, prove worthy of their trust...why not? Having said that, I don't want you on my place.

I was wondering why you didn't volunteer your 30 acres.

I think he's afraid I'll kill his pig.

1) because its a small property
2) because I'm usually there and go there to not see people
3) if I'm not there, a relative or close friend is
4) it's where all my horded ammo and weapons are buried.

johncanfield wrote:One of my friends makes everybody using his ranch sign a hold harmless agreement which addresses the liability concern. My other friend with a ranch won't let hunters use his property until he provides a training session where he determines their proficiency and he gives them do's and don'ts. He's had some idiot hunters before so he's careful now about who carries a gun on his ranch.

johncanfield: I'm sure your friends are wise and smart. I would advise, however, that hold harmless agreements and training certificates simply become exhibits in a lawsuit.

Liability insurance provides a first line of defense against lawsuit, up to policy limits. And that cost does get passed along to hunters. As it does airline passengers, and train riders, and auto policy holders, and homeowners.......

chuckybrown wrote:johncanfield: I'm sure your friends are wise and smart. ..

LOL - yes they are as a matter of fact .

I had a law class as an undergraduate and learned for example you cannot exhibit a sign (not responsible for accidents) that relieves you of responsibility for negligence. Signing a hold harmless document acknowledges that you realize certain risks but the ultimate arbitrator is a court of law.

baldeagle wrote:

WildBill wrote:

Shinesintx wrote:

baldeagle wrote:I should have mentioned I'm interested in hunting hogs for food, not trophies. Killing a bunch of them and picking one or two to butcher and take home would be fine with me.

I liked the idea of doing a guided hunt for your first time. I disagree that farmers and ranchers won't let you hunt their place for free....I say that with the belief that you can present yourself well and convince them that you are an honorable person. I've found that most rural folk seem to be better humans than those in the city. If you can help than at no cost, prove worthy of their trust...why not? Having said that, I don't want you on my place.

I was wondering why you didn't volunteer your 30 acres.

I think he's afraid I'll kill his pig.

Shinesintx wrote:... let the coyotes deal with the carcasses.

If the pigs don't strip it first! After a couple days to ripen up they will be on it like a possum on ... well, you know! I've watched the hogs and their little watermelons chase off buzzards and yotes to keep a big ol tasty rotting hog. That is why most folks want you to haul em - otherwise it just fattens up the rest of them and makes em meaner. There used to be a guy that hunted the upper end of Cooper Dam/Jim Chapman Lake in the wildlife area and he would come out of there with 20 to 30 a day. Didn't make a dent! BTW - you shoot one to eat - you can usually smell / taste (if you dare) the blood to tell what they have been eating. If roots etc it will have a clean smell - if they have been dining on dead it will smell like it and usually cook up with it too.

I keep hearing about farmers/ranchers that will let you hunt hogs on their land for free - and yet I have not found any listings for this am I looking in the wrong places

or is this just a fairy tale

On he way home from work today I saw a vehicle with a sign in the back window advertising "Free Hog Removal" along with contact information. I took a picture of it if you would like to contact the person.

I have no idea how well it would work, nor the cost to get a sign made, but it's a novel approach.

Larry

I have been looking for a place that is overrun and needs someone to take care of the problem for a couple of years now. I run across a lot of people selling guns and have yet to find anyone willing. The majority of people are unwilling to let people hunt on their land even if they are having hog problems. If anyone in the Houston area needs some hogs killed let me know, maybe we can work out a trade for services.

well I am going to keep searching, for farmers or ranchers that need some thinning out on their property. think I will ask some family members around Amarillo or call state wildlife, maybe they can provide some info
thank for replies

I think it important to demonstrate to the land owner you're a responsible person.

Further, I also thing it important to ask the farmer/rancher what you can do to help beyond killing hogs. Fence mending or whatever. Heck, just picking up trash goes a long way...

This approach will get you asked back.

Consider asking the land owner if he'd like the back strap or more...