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Re: CONROE, Texas OIS- 19yro shoplifter killed

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 1:13 pm
by J_Davis84
jmra wrote:
J_Davis84 wrote:
jimlongley wrote:Sure reminds me of a similar situation in Florida.

Any bets on how long it takes the Sharpton/Jackson cabal to trot out the race card? No? I wonder why they wouldn't campaign for this poor innocent kid just walking home from shopping too?
How does this sound similar? The kid in Florida did not steal from anyone and try to fight the person trying to stop him from getting away with something. He was pursued walking home doing nothing, totally different situation.
"rlol"
Thanks, I needed a good laugh this morning. He wasn't "doing nothing". He was high on dope casing houses looking for cash, or something he could turn into cash, to buy more dope. Have you followed this case at all?
TM wasn't "pursued". Did you listen to the 911 call? Z briefly walked away from his truck in order to maintain visual contact. When told by 911 that he didn't need to do that, it's obvious by the background noise on the phone that Z stops and returns to his truck (we know this because we hear him open the truck door).
Everything that happens after that rest solely on the shoulders of TM. He became the pursuer and attacked Z because he knew Z had busted him casing the hood.
How does this sound similar? Two no good punk thugs decided to assault someone with a gun and paid the ultimate price for their stupidity, that's how. Society is better off without either of them.

I did follow the case and where did it state that he was casing housing? He was walking home and had someone following him and so at that time which any of us would be, he was concerned. So now your calling the kid names because he felt threaten with someone following him, and let me know how is he a thug and was casing houses? where is your info coming from? Yes he did some drugs which most teens I have known have at least tried, I never did them myself but have seen and known a good amount that do, and it doesn't make a person a thug or not. So with him walking home that means he was up to no good? So your saying I can walk around my neighborhood at night and accuse anyone walking home of casing homes or up to no good and it will be just fine. I'm not saying it was good or bad shoot but the hold situation could have been avoided if people do not think if a kid is walking home then he must be up to no good.

So thank you for the good laugh

Re: CONROE, Texas OIS- 19yro shoplifter killed

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:09 pm
by Dragonfighter
J_Davis84 wrote: I did follow the case and where did it state that he was casing housing? He was walking home and had someone following him and so at that time which any of us would be, he was concerned. So now your calling the kid names because he felt threaten with someone following him, and let me know how is he a thug and was casing houses? where is your info coming from? Yes he did some drugs which most teens I have known have at least tried, I never did them myself but have seen and known a good amount that do, and it doesn't make a person a thug or not. So with him walking home that means he was up to no good? So your saying I can walk around my neighborhood at night and accuse anyone walking home of casing homes or up to no good and it will be just fine. I'm not saying it was good or bad shoot but the hold situation could have been avoided if people do not think if a kid is walking home then he must be up to no good.

So thank you for the good laugh
There's 200+ pages diseccting this case from its inception, through acquittal and beyond. But if you followed anything besides the sound bites you'd have known "thug" was a term used by TM and his companions, he had a history of B&E as well as violence; that he had bought two of the main ingredients for "LEAN" and tools consistent with break ins were found in his back pack.

Other than that I don't know where anyone gets off calling the litle angel a "thug" that was casing the neighborhood.

Re: CONROE, Texas OIS- 19yro shoplifter killed

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:44 pm
by ScooterSissy
J_Davis84 wrote:
jimlongley wrote:Sure reminds me of a similar situation in Florida.

Any bets on how long it takes the Sharpton/Jackson cabal to trot out the race card? No? I wonder why they wouldn't campaign for this poor innocent kid just walking home from shopping too?
How does this sound similar? The kid in Florida did not steal from anyone and try to fight the person trying to stop him from getting away with something. He was pursued walking home doing nothing, totally different situation.
The kid in Florida and this one were shot for the same reason - attacking someone with a gun. That's how they're similar.

Re: CONROE, Texas OIS- 19yro shoplifter killed

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:00 pm
by jmra
J_Davis84 wrote:
jmra wrote:
J_Davis84 wrote:
jimlongley wrote:Sure reminds me of a similar situation in Florida.

Any bets on how long it takes the Sharpton/Jackson cabal to trot out the race card? No? I wonder why they wouldn't campaign for this poor innocent kid just walking home from shopping too?
How does this sound similar? The kid in Florida did not steal from anyone and try to fight the person trying to stop him from getting away with something. He was pursued walking home doing nothing, totally different situation.
"rlol"
Thanks, I needed a good laugh this morning. He wasn't "doing nothing". He was high on dope casing houses looking for cash, or something he could turn into cash, to buy more dope. Have you followed this case at all?
TM wasn't "pursued". Did you listen to the 911 call? Z briefly walked away from his truck in order to maintain visual contact. When told by 911 that he didn't need to do that, it's obvious by the background noise on the phone that Z stops and returns to his truck (we know this because we hear him open the truck door).
Everything that happens after that rest solely on the shoulders of TM. He became the pursuer and attacked Z because he knew Z had busted him casing the hood.
How does this sound similar? Two no good punk thugs decided to assault someone with a gun and paid the ultimate price for their stupidity, that's how. Society is better off without either of them.

I did follow the case and where did it state that he was casing housing? He was walking home and had someone following him and so at that time which any of us would be, he was concerned. So now your calling the kid names because he felt threaten with someone following him, and let me know how is he a thug and was casing houses? where is your info coming from? Yes he did some drugs which most teens I have known have at least tried, I never did them myself but have seen and known a good amount that do, and it doesn't make a person a thug or not. So with him walking home that means he was up to no good? So your saying I can walk around my neighborhood at night and accuse anyone walking home of casing homes or up to no good and it will be just fine. I'm not saying it was good or bad shoot but the hold situation could have been avoided if people do not think if a kid is walking home then he must be up to no good.

So thank you for the good laugh
It is a fact that TM had drugs in his system that night. This is undisputed fact.
The totally candid 911 call describes TM "walking from house to house looking at houses". This is not a description of someone "walking home". This is the description of a drug addict casing houses looking for his next score. In fact, Z even says that the individual looked like he was on drugs (which of course we now know for a fact that he indeed was on drugs).
TM was suspended from school for stealing. He was caught red handed with the stolen goods. This is undisputed fact. He was by definition a thief.
You can live in a make believe world if you wish, but the facts of that day and TMs history prove he was a thief, a habitual drug user, and a thug. Those are the undisputed facts.

Re: CONROE, Texas OIS- 19yro shoplifter killed

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:05 pm
by jmra
Dragonfighter wrote:
J_Davis84 wrote: I did follow the case and where did it state that he was casing housing? He was walking home and had someone following him and so at that time which any of us would be, he was concerned. So now your calling the kid names because he felt threaten with someone following him, and let me know how is he a thug and was casing houses? where is your info coming from? Yes he did some drugs which most teens I have known have at least tried, I never did them myself but have seen and known a good amount that do, and it doesn't make a person a thug or not. So with him walking home that means he was up to no good? So your saying I can walk around my neighborhood at night and accuse anyone walking home of casing homes or up to no good and it will be just fine. I'm not saying it was good or bad shoot but the hold situation could have been avoided if people do not think if a kid is walking home then he must be up to no good.

So thank you for the good laugh
There's 200+ pages diseccting this case from its inception, through acquittal and beyond. But if you followed anything besides the sound bites you'd have known "thug" was a term used by TM and his companions, he had a history of B&E as well as violence; that he had bought two of the main ingredients for "LEAN" and tools consistent with break ins were found in his back pack.

Other than that I don't know where anyone gets off calling the litle angel a "thug" that was casing the neighborhood.
:iagree: very well stated.

Re: CONROE, Texas OIS- 19yro shoplifter killed

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:26 pm
by gigag04
J_Davis84 wrote: How does this sound similar? The kid in Florida did not steal from anyone and try to fight the person trying to stop him from getting away with something. He was pursued walking home doing nothing, totally different situation.

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Re: CONROE, Texas OIS- 19yro shoplifter killed

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 11:04 pm
by PSTL*PAKR
ScooterSissy wrote:
J_Davis84 wrote:
jimlongley wrote:Sure reminds me of a similar situation in Florida.

Any bets on how long it takes the Sharpton/Jackson cabal to trot out the race card? No? I wonder why they wouldn't campaign for this poor innocent kid just walking home from shopping too?
How does this sound similar? The kid in Florida did not steal from anyone and try to fight the person trying to stop him from getting away with something. He was pursued walking home doing nothing, totally different situation.
The kid in Florida and this one were shot for the same reason - attacking someone with a gun. That's how they're similar.
_____________________________
You only have 1 side of the story. Too bad the kids arent here to tell their side. A cop will kill a defenseless person, then say they feared for their lives, CASE CLOSED, officer gets off after an internal "investigation"!

Re: CONROE, Texas OIS- 19yro shoplifter killed

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:56 am
by gigag04
PSTL*PAKR wrote:
ScooterSissy wrote:
J_Davis84 wrote:
jimlongley wrote:Sure reminds me of a similar situation in Florida.

Any bets on how long it takes the Sharpton/Jackson cabal to trot out the race card? No? I wonder why they wouldn't campaign for this poor innocent kid just walking home from shopping too?
How does this sound similar? The kid in Florida did not steal from anyone and try to fight the person trying to stop him from getting away with something. He was pursued walking home doing nothing, totally different situation.
The kid in Florida and this one were shot for the same reason - attacking someone with a gun. That's how they're similar.
_____________________________
You only have 1 side of the story. Too bad the kids arent here to tell their side. A cop will kill a defenseless person, then say they feared for their lives, CASE CLOSED, officer gets off after an internal "investigation"!
Just so we're clear, that isn't doing the process justice, but I think my comments are troll-food anyway.

Re: CONROE, Texas OIS- 19yro shoplifter killed

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:05 am
by jmra
PSTL*PAKR wrote:
ScooterSissy wrote:
J_Davis84 wrote:
jimlongley wrote:Sure reminds me of a similar situation in Florida.

Any bets on how long it takes the Sharpton/Jackson cabal to trot out the race card? No? I wonder why they wouldn't campaign for this poor innocent kid just walking home from shopping too?
How does this sound similar? The kid in Florida did not steal from anyone and try to fight the person trying to stop him from getting away with something. He was pursued walking home doing nothing, totally different situation.
The kid in Florida and this one were shot for the same reason - attacking someone with a gun. That's how they're similar.
_____________________________
You only have 1 side of the story. Too bad the kids arent here to tell their side. A cop will kill a defenseless person, then say they feared for their lives, CASE CLOSED, officer gets off after an internal "investigation"!
Seems to me the kids side for both cases has been/will be documented very well. Simply look at the bruising on the officers neck and the injuries sustained by GZ. Couple that with both young men's histories along with their actions immediately prior to the physical encounter and you see the big picture.
In fact, the big picture is very easily seen unless of course the viewer is wearing blinders because of their own prejudice or identify with these young men because of the viewers own criminal past. If either of these are the case then regardless of the facts or the overwhelming evidence the viewer will never see the truth.
I have encountered numerous "viewers" who fall into these categories in the last 18 months. They simply refuse to accept any fact based or logical arguments. When I reach a point in a conversation where I realize this to be the case, I simply walk away heeding my father's advice from many years ago, "Only a fool argues with a fool".

Re: CONROE, Texas OIS- 19yro shoplifter killed

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:51 am
by gringo pistolero
PSTL*PAKR wrote:You only have 1 side of the story. Too bad the kids arent here to tell their side. A cop will kill a defenseless person, then say they feared for their lives, CASE CLOSED, officer gets off after an internal "investigation"!
That might have been a true statement a few months ago for people who got their news from the major networks. They didn't tell us about Trayvon's history of antisocial behavior. They didn't tell us he was kicked out of school for that behavior. They whined about "stand your ground" when George was pinned to the ground. They showed us a family photo of a pre-teen Trayvon, instead of the current social media pics he posted of himself. Back then, the 20th Century Media was only feeding the public one side of the story.

Then we had the trial coverage and we learned that Trayvon racially profiled George before he attacked him. They didn't call it a hate crime because the criminal was Black, but if an Asian youth with a history of violence used "the N word" shortly before attacking a middle class Black family man, do you think that would be swept under the rug?

The public learned, even if the jurors didn't, that Trayvon had a history of stealing and doing drugs. We learned that he had drugs in his system the night he attacked George. We also learned he purchased ingredients for a street drug cocktail that night.

We learned a lot of things during the trial that the 20th Century Media was suppressing for a year. And now we know the rest of the story about that night in Sanford.

But I'm still not sure what it has to do with the OIS in Conroe. :headscratch

Re: CONROE, Texas OIS- 19yro shoplifter killed

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:48 am
by drjoker
There could have been a warning shot.
Yet another liberal who believes in the legality of the "warning shot."

Re: CONROE, Texas OIS- 19yro shoplifter killed

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:55 am
by RottenApple
drjoker wrote:
There could have been a warning shot.
Yet another liberal who believes in the legality of the "warning shot."
Yep. I was talking with a woman a couple of days ago who said she was told by an officer to never shoot at someone but to just fire a warning shot. :shock: Sadly, she wouldn't listen to anything else. I fear what will happen to her if she ever finds herself in that position. :banghead:

Re: CONROE, Texas OIS- 19yro shoplifter killed

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:58 am
by SATX-Scrub
In all fairness, I believe that was, in fact, a warning shot.

Re: CONROE, Texas OIS- 19yro shoplifter killed

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 12:55 pm
by pancho
SATX-Scrub wrote:In all fairness, I believe that was, in fact, a warning shot.
STOP CHOKING ME!
or I'll shoot you again

Re: CONROE, Texas OIS- 19yro shoplifter killed

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 1:58 pm
by The Annoyed Man
OnceFired wrote:I want the cool shiny thing...
I can't pay for it...
Or don't want to...
I think I can get away with it...
I'm going to steal it...
Oops got caught stealing...
Gotta run, cuz that's better than paying penance for the crime I just committed...
Aw man the cop can run farther & longer than I can...
Better attack the cop so I can get away...
Bang
Uh oh. I want my mom.
For the win!