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Re: what senate rule change could mean for 2nd amendment

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 7:10 pm
by mr surveyor
Robert*PPS wrote:If the majority can simply change the rules, then realistically speaking, there are no rules.

well said!

Re: what senate rule change could mean for 2nd amendment

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 3:00 pm
by sunny beach
Robert*PPS wrote:If the majority can simply change the rules, then realistically speaking, there are no rules.
Democracy is not the same as anarchy.

Re: what senate rule change could mean for 2nd amendment

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:59 pm
by Jaguar
sunny beach wrote:
Robert*PPS wrote:If the majority can simply change the rules, then realistically speaking, there are no rules.
Democracy is not the same as anarchy.
And a Republic is not the same as Democracy.

Re: what senate rule change could mean for 2nd amendment

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:56 pm
by mojo84
Long term, the answer is at the polls. In the interim, how do we combat what the progressives are doing? The president is changing laws at his whim and the progressives in the senate are changing the rules to fit their agenda. How do we regain some semblence of balance of power and rule of law before they do figure out a way to take our guns? After the guns, other rights will be gone. My tinfoil hat is only going to provide so much protection.

Re: what senate rule change could mean for 2nd amendment

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 10:05 pm
by suthdj
mojo84 wrote:Long term, the answer is at the polls. In the interim, how do we combat what the progressives are doing? The president is changing laws at his whim and the progressives in the senate are changing the rules to fit their agenda. How do we regain some semblence of balance of power and rule of law before they do figure out a way to take our guns? After the guns, other rights will be gone. My tinfoil hat is only going to provide so much protection.
My tin foil hat has a Kevlar underlining.

Re: what senate rule change could mean for 2nd amendment

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 10:59 pm
by baldeagle
mamabearCali wrote:It is a bleak day. Once power is taken from the people it is not easily recovered.
November 6, 2008 was a bleak day for America. Unfortunately, far too many Americans still don't realize it.

Obama said elections have consequences. He wasn't kidding. And Americans weren't listening.

Now we pay the price.

Re: what senate rule change could mean for 2nd amendment

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:04 am
by jmra
baldeagle wrote:
mamabearCali wrote:It is a bleak day. Once power is taken from the people it is not easily recovered.
November 6, 2008 was a bleak day for America. Unfortunately, far too many Americans still don't realize it.

Obama said elections have consequences. He wasn't kidding. And Americans weren't listening.

Now we pay the price.
:iagree:

Re: what senate rule change could mean for 2nd amendment

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:08 am
by 03Lightningrocks
jmra wrote:
baldeagle wrote:
mamabearCali wrote:It is a bleak day. Once power is taken from the people it is not easily recovered.
November 6, 2008 was a bleak day for America. Unfortunately, far too many Americans still don't realize it.

Obama said elections have consequences. He wasn't kidding. And Americans weren't listening.

Now we pay the price.
:iagree:
:iagree: :iagree:

Re: what senate rule change could mean for 2nd amendment

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:15 am
by Vol Texan
03Lightningrocks wrote:
jmra wrote:
baldeagle wrote:
mamabearCali wrote:It is a bleak day. Once power is taken from the people it is not easily recovered.
November 6, 2008 was a bleak day for America. Unfortunately, far too many Americans still don't realize it.

Obama said elections have consequences. He wasn't kidding. And Americans weren't listening.

Now we pay the price.
:iagree:
:iagree: :iagree:
:iagree: :iagree: :iagree:

Re: what senate rule change could mean for 2nd amendment

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:44 am
by mojo84
Here's an interesting and scary take on what's going on.

http://allenbwest.com/2013/11/every-d-c ... -registry/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: what senate rule change could mean for 2nd amendment

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 1:34 am
by jmra
mojo84 wrote:Here's an interesting and scary take on what's going on.

http://allenbwest.com/2013/11/every-d-c ... -registry/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Not good. Next thing you know Obama is going to strike a deal with Iran, oh wait...

Re: what senate rule change could mean for 2nd amendment

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 1:53 am
by Wes
What's crazy is this impacts every way more than the assault weapons ban would have yet it's not a hot item. I don't think most people realize what's actually happened or worse yet, care.

Re: what senate rule change could mean for 2nd amendment

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:42 am
by mamabearCali
Imagine the outrage if this was applied to any other civil right. Want to vote...get photographed, fingerprinted, and pay a tax. Want to be a journalist, get photographed, fingerprinted and pay a tax. Want to have a faith, get fingerprinted, and pay a tax. HOLY COW the outrage would be rightfully great and fearsome to behold.

What a scary time we live in.

Re: what senate rule change could mean for 2nd amendment

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:46 pm
by suthdj
mamabearCali wrote:Imagine the outrage if this was applied to any other civil right. Want to vote...get photographed, fingerprinted, and pay a tax. Want to be a journalist, get photographed, fingerprinted and pay a tax. Want to have a faith, get fingerprinted, and pay a tax. HOLY COW the outrage would be rightfully great and fearsome to behold.

What a scary time we live in.
Yep no where to go but down. It seems everyone is just holding their breath until the next election and hoping nothing else happens all the time the left is just stacking things in their favor. :banghead: :banghead:

Re: what senate rule change could mean for 2nd amendment

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:01 pm
by jmra
suthdj wrote:
mamabearCali wrote:Imagine the outrage if this was applied to any other civil right. Want to vote...get photographed, fingerprinted, and pay a tax. Want to be a journalist, get photographed, fingerprinted and pay a tax. Want to have a faith, get fingerprinted, and pay a tax. HOLY COW the outrage would be rightfully great and fearsome to behold.

What a scary time we live in.
Yep no where to go but down. It seems everyone is just holding their breath until the next election and hoping nothing else happens all the time the left is just stacking things in their favor. :banghead: :banghead:
For the most part conservatives take the moral high ground/play by the rules. It's almost impossible to win any contest when the rules only apply to your team.
We are living on borrowed time.