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Re: USMC ordering more 45's

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:41 am
by Dave2
JRG wrote:Oh my, $2100 for per Marine pistol???? I did not catch it in the article, but how many are they ordering?

Joe
Geez... Remind me again what's wrong with the Glock 21?

Re: USMC ordering more 45's

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 3:10 am
by jmra
Dave2 wrote:
JRG wrote:Oh my, $2100 for per Marine pistol???? I did not catch it in the article, but how many are they ordering?

Joe
Geez... Remind me again what's wrong with the Glock 21?
I was thinking the same thing. You could get four or five Glocks for the price of one of these.

Re: USMC ordering more 45's

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:12 am
by Jumping Frog
jmra wrote:
Dave2 wrote:
JRG wrote:Oh my, $2100 for per Marine pistol???? I did not catch it in the article, but how many are they ordering?

Joe
Geez... Remind me again what's wrong with the Glock 21?
I was thinking the same thing. You could get four or five Glocks for the price of one of these.
Yeah, or one toilet seat.

Don't forget who the purchaser is and its unlimited capacity to waste money.

Re: USMC ordering more 45's

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:49 am
by Excaliber
LTUME1978 wrote:I saw and handled one of those new 1911's at PSC a few months ago (it belonged to someone who had some connections and was able to get one). It has a surprisingly loose fit for the cost of the pistol. I did not get to shoot it so I can't comment on the accuracy/function. I would personnally have a hard time spending that much money on that pistol after having owned a Springfield TRP and Trophy Match.
The fit is most likely deliberate.

A Ranger captain I know strongly preferred the Glock for work in Afghanistan. He said the grit over there played havoc with tightly fitted 1911's.

Re: USMC ordering more 45's

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:40 am
by A-R
What makes this 1911 better than (insert your favorite quality 1911) with a desert tan cerrakote paint job?

Re: USMC ordering more 45's

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:12 am
by texanjoker
jmra wrote:
Dave2 wrote:
JRG wrote:Oh my, $2100 for per Marine pistol???? I did not catch it in the article, but how many are they ordering?

Joe
Geez... Remind me again what's wrong with the Glock 21?
I was thinking the same thing. You could get four or five Glocks for the price of one of these.
Back many years ago (90's) I had to give a k9 demo to a SEAL team based in Coronado. This was pre 911. Wherever they had been, they encountered dogs, and took them out with silenced glock 45s..... Probably a good story there, but the point was they carried glock 45's...

Re: USMC ordering more 45's

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:20 am
by stash
JRG wrote:Oh my, $2100 for per Marine pistol???? I did not catch it in the article, but how many are they ordering?

Joe
Initially a little more than 4000 (could go higher). I know it will serve there purpose, but I don't like the looks of a rail on a 1911.

Re: USMC ordering more 45's

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 11:05 pm
by Deltaboy
It war good enough for The Corp from WW1 till the Mid 1980's. I am glad to see the 1911 return.

Re: USMC ordering more 45's

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:41 pm
by myntalfloss
Deltaboy wrote:It war good enough for The Corp from WW1 till the Mid 1980's. I am glad to see the 1911 return.

Let's bring back the calvary.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with the Corps having the the 1911, it's a good gun,( the one's I used in the Corps probably were 20 years old and had thousands or rounds through them but still worked like a clock), but I suspect it has more to do with the previously mentioned vendor (w/ ex-Marine CEO) than the superior ballistics. Most pistols shots aren't single shot kills, and the pistol is mostly used as a last resort weapon or for suppressing fire while you reload your long gun.

This is based on my experiences that the enemy refused to stand still and let me shoot him. Believe or don't, combat consists mostly of misses. If given my druthers, I'd always have a long gun but, if we gotta go pistols, I'd rather have 15 rounds of 9mm than 8 rds of .45. If they had selected the Glock 21 or someother hi-cap .45, then the difference would be moot.

Re: USMC ordering more 45's

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:47 pm
by myntalfloss
Excaliber wrote:
LTUME1978 wrote:I saw and handled one of those new 1911's at PSC a few months ago (it belonged to someone who had some connections and was able to get one). It has a surprisingly loose fit for the cost of the pistol. I did not get to shoot it so I can't comment on the accuracy/function. I would personnally have a hard time spending that much money on that pistol after having owned a Springfield TRP and Trophy Match.
The fit is most likely deliberate.

A Ranger captain I know strongly preferred the Glock for work in Afghanistan. He said the grit over there played havoc with tightly fitted 1911's.

I agree, look at the AK's, they seem to be made of potmetal and chicken wire but you can't make them stop running.
:iagree:

Re: USMC ordering more 45's

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 10:50 pm
by Stupid
Dave2 wrote:
JRG wrote:Oh my, $2100 for per Marine pistol???? I did not catch it in the article, but how many are they ordering?

Joe
Geez... Remind me again what's wrong with the Glock 21?
We voted in the government that loves spending our money.

Re: USMC ordering more 45's

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 10:57 pm
by Oldgringo
It's not the cost of the gun, it's the cost of doing business with the government....you think?

Re: USMC ordering more 45's

Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:00 pm
by Abraham
myntalfloss,

Calvary?

Hhhhhmmm, methinks you meant CAVALRY.

Re: USMC ordering more 45's

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 1:15 pm
by myntalfloss
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Abraham wrote:myntalfloss,

Calvary?

Hhhhhmmm, methinks you meant CAVALRY.
Oyy! I did. Thanks for catching that. Spelling is only one of my problems.