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Re: Anti Gun AMC calls feds and they yank man and his wife f
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:32 pm
by Redneck_Buddha
Tic Tac wrote:rp_photo wrote:
The movie industry bribed (I meant lobbied) the right people in the federal government to make recording movies a federal crime.
You have to admire their long term planning though. Getting
Article I, Section 8, Clause 8 into the United States Constitution was a stroke of genius by the movie industry.
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
To borrow money on the credit of the United States;
To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;
To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;
To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;
To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;
To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;
Spelled out much more specifically than "musket and ball".
Re: Anti Gun AMC calls feds and they yank man and his wife f
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:00 pm
by bbobb
Oldgringo wrote:What are "google glasses"? Would I know them if I see them?
Technically its called Google Glass but by any other name it would still be a wearable "smart" device.
http://www.google.com/glass/start/what-it-does/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Anti Gun AMC calls feds and they yank man and his wife f
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:31 pm
by Cedar Park Dad
Oldgringo wrote:What are "google glasses"? Would I know them if I see them?
Yes they look like bad Sci Fi B movie glasses.
I'm actually supportive of AMC on this. Bring a device that can record the movie blatantly into the theater, expect to get thrown out and interrogated. It sucks to be you.
Re: Anti Gun AMC calls feds and they yank man and his wife f
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:17 pm
by WildBill
Redneck_Buddha wrote:Tic Tac wrote:rp_photo wrote:
The movie industry bribed (I meant lobbied) the right people in the federal government to make recording movies a federal crime.
You have to admire their long term planning though. Getting
Article I, Section 8, Clause 8 into the United States Constitution was a stroke of genius by the movie industry.
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
To borrow money on the credit of the United States;
To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;
To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;
To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;
To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;
To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;
Spelled out much more specifically than "musket and ball".
The [Sonny Bono] Copyright Term Extension Law enacted in 1998 increased the amount of time for copyright protection. Some of convinced that the "limited times" are now too long. I don't know any court cases yet.
Re: Anti Gun AMC calls feds and they yank man and his wife f
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:21 pm
by Oldgringo
bbobb wrote:Oldgringo wrote:What are "google glasses"? Would I know them if I see them?
Technically its called Google Glass but by any other name it would still be a wearable "smart" device.
http://www.google.com/glass/start/what-it-does/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Cool Beans! I want one.
Re: Anti Gun AMC calls feds and they yank man and his wife f
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:24 pm
by cb1000rider
You can have one. Qualify for the beta and pay somewhere between $1600-$2500, if I recall right.
Just don't walk into an AMC with 'em on.
Re: Anti Gun AMC calls feds and they yank man and his wife f
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:09 pm
by Oldgringo
cb1000rider wrote:You can have a some. Qualify for the beta and pay somewhere between $1600-$2500, if I recall right.
Just don't walk into an AMC with 'em on.
Well, so much for that idea. What's next?
Re: Anti Gun AMC calls feds and they yank man and his wife f
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:28 pm
by cb1000rider
What's next how? I think it's pretty much a fact that everything we do is becoming monitored via legitimate or illegitimate means. Personally, I'm running 5 cameras at home recording 24/7. I feel most comfortable during "LEO encounters" if I know that both of us are being recorded. And certainly the feds are recording some "good guys" along the way contrary to how most people traditionally interpret our constitutional rights.
I'm not ready for Google Glass and I recognize that we live in a country where the government is able to locate bad guys very quickly probably due to the fact that everyone is being recorded in one way or another for a good part of the time.
In regard to the AMC thing: It was probably a reasonable thing for the theater to do. They were responding to what they thought might be illegal activity and an activity that affects their business (piracy). The reaction of the feds, well, seems a bit ridiculous, but some time would need to be taken to determine if those glasses were recording... Seems a bit over the top. At least no cavities were searched in this one.
Re: Anti Gun AMC calls feds and they yank man and his wife f
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:52 pm
by Jumping Frog
philip964 wrote:AMC apparently has no policy, so they respond by calling the FBI.
Read a different article that said the local AMC called the MPAA. The MPAA called ICE. They were apparently ICE agents that responded.
Re: Anti Gun AMC calls feds and they yank man and his wife f
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:36 am
by Dave2
Jumping Frog wrote:philip964 wrote:AMC apparently has no policy, so they respond by calling the FBI.
Read a different article that said the local AMC called the MPAA. The MPAA called ICE. They were apparently ICE agents that responded.
What does Immigration & Customs Enforcement have to do with recording movies?
Re: Anti Gun AMC calls feds and they yank man and his wife f
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:47 pm
by rp_photo
Dave2 wrote:Jumping Frog wrote:philip964 wrote:AMC apparently has no policy, so they respond by calling the FBI.
Read a different article that said the local AMC called the MPAA. The MPAA called ICE. They were apparently ICE agents that responded.
What does Immigration & Customs Enforcement have to do with recording movies?
I would consider this disturbing "jurisdiction creep".
Small-scale, low-resolution movie piracy is not important enough to warrant investigation by any Federal agency IMHO.
Re: Anti Gun AMC calls feds and they yank man and his wife f
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:23 pm
by Hector
rp_photo wrote:Dave2 wrote:Jumping Frog wrote:philip964 wrote:AMC apparently has no policy, so they respond by calling the FBI.
Read a different article that said the local AMC called the MPAA. The MPAA called ICE. They were apparently ICE agents that responded.
What does Immigration & Customs Enforcement have to do with recording movies?
I would consider this disturbing "jurisdiction creep".
Small-scale, low-resolution movie piracy is not important enough to warrant investigation by any Federal agency IMHO.
Some people feel the same way about small-scale child pornography but the law is the law.