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Re: Ex-member says MAIG's goal is confiscate legal guns

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:46 am
by TomsTXCHL
VoiceofReason wrote:Don’t the idiots that want to confiscate guns know what would happen if they got their legislative wish and some government organizations started trying to confiscate all guns?

Don’t they realize that to a lot of people “come and take it” is not just a catch phrase?

What do you think Bloomberg, Feinstein, the other gun grabbers and the government would do if thousands(plural) started resisting with force?
Since every LEO and military have sworn an oath to "uphold the constitution of the US" presumably a first step would need to be to repeal the 2nd Amendment. Not readily doable.

Of course, our POTUS does stuff all the time that he shouldn't do, and maybe he will declare martial law and order the above to take our guns, but we can hope at least that they will instead abide by the oath that they have taken.

Re: Ex-member says MAIG's goal is confiscate legal guns

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:52 am
by baldeagle
VoiceofReason wrote:Don’t the idiots that want to confiscate guns know what would happen if they got their legislative wish and some government organizations started trying to confiscate all guns?

Don’t they realize that to a lot of people “come and take it” is not just a catch phrase?

What do you think Bloomberg, Feinstein, the other gun grabbers and the government would do if thousands(plural) started resisting with force?
Oh, that's easy. They kill or incarcerate them all. Or at least they'd try to.

Re: Ex-member says MAIG's goal is confiscate legal guns

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:13 am
by mamabearCali
baldeagle wrote:
VoiceofReason wrote:Don’t the idiots that want to confiscate guns know what would happen if they got their legislative wish and some government organizations started trying to confiscate all guns?

Don’t they realize that to a lot of people “come and take it” is not just a catch phrase?

What do you think Bloomberg, Feinstein, the other gun grabbers and the government would do if thousands(plural) started resisting with force?
Oh, that's easy. They kill or incarcerate them all. Or at least they'd try to.

Pretty big hubris they have then. Something like 100 million gun owners, more everyday. Even the leftist twenty somethings that are leftist on other social issues are not on this one.

Re: Ex-member says MAIG's goal is confiscate legal guns

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:49 am
by VMI77
mamabearCali wrote:
baldeagle wrote:
VoiceofReason wrote:Don’t the idiots that want to confiscate guns know what would happen if they got their legislative wish and some government organizations started trying to confiscate all guns?

Don’t they realize that to a lot of people “come and take it” is not just a catch phrase?

What do you think Bloomberg, Feinstein, the other gun grabbers and the government would do if thousands(plural) started resisting with force?
Oh, that's easy. They kill or incarcerate them all. Or at least they'd try to.

Pretty big hubris they have then. Something like 100 million gun owners, more everyday. Even the leftist twenty somethings that are leftist on other social issues are not on this one.
The anti's meme is that gun ownership is in decline, and that while gun sales are up, it's people who already own guns buying more, not people buying their first guns. Personally, most of the people I've seen at gun counters lately seem to be buying their first gun.....with probably about 70% being couples where the wife is getting her first gun. The thing to remember is that the lefties live in their own world of self-comforting delusions and ignore reality unless it falls from the sky and lands on their heads.

Re: Ex-member says MAIG's goal is confiscate legal guns

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 12:30 pm
by mamabearCali
VMI77 wrote:
mamabearCali wrote:
baldeagle wrote:
VoiceofReason wrote:Don’t the idiots that want to confiscate guns know what would happen if they got their legislative wish and some government organizations started trying to confiscate all guns?

Don’t they realize that to a lot of people “come and take it” is not just a catch phrase?

What do you think Bloomberg, Feinstein, the other gun grabbers and the government would do if thousands(plural) started resisting with force?
Oh, that's easy. They kill or incarcerate them all. Or at least they'd try to.

Pretty big hubris they have then. Something like 100 million gun owners, more everyday. Even the leftist twenty somethings that are leftist on other social issues are not on this one.
The anti's meme is that gun ownership is in decline, and that while gun sales are up, it's people who already own guns buying more, not people buying their first guns. Personally, most of the people I've seen at gun counters lately seem to be buying their first gun.....with probably about 70% being couples where the wife is getting her first gun. The thing to remember is that the lefties live in their own world of self-comforting delusions and ignore reality unless it falls from the sky and lands on their heads.
Still you gonna kill 100 million people? That takes some big brass one and a pretty stiff stomach.

Re: Ex-member says MAIG's goal is confiscate legal guns

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 3:07 pm
by TomsTXCHL
AndyC wrote:And that's assuming they know exactly where each gun-owner lives... what are they going to do, raze ever single house and apartment in the USA to the ground?
They will be relentless. We must be resolute.

Re: Ex-member says MAIG's goal is confiscate legal guns

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:28 pm
by cb1000rider
You guys...

Re: Ex-member says MAIG's goal is confiscate legal guns

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:04 am
by VMI77
AndyC wrote:And that's assuming they know exactly where each gun-owner lives... what are they going to do, raze ever single house and apartment in the USA to the ground?
No, I think a forced confiscation is extremely unlikely. I think even legal confiscation is unlikely simply due to the cost. The model will be more like CT and NY and those who don't turn in their guns will bear the risk of being caught out and going to prison, mostly likely from being informed on by a friend, relative, or neighbor. I believe the lefties think people will turn their guns in if the law compels them because that's what they would do, but it seems like that theory isn't working out so well in CT and NY, so it's hard to believe it will work any better in Texas or Florida or Arizona. It didn't really work in Canada, Europe, or Australia either, as from what I've read there are large numbers of prohibited weapons in all those places.

Re: Ex-member says MAIG's goal is confiscate legal guns

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:17 am
by TomsTXCHL
VMI77 wrote:It didn't really work in Canada, Europe, or Australia either, as from what I've read there are large numbers of prohibited weapons in all those places.
Yeah let's see. All the criminals would keep their guns of course, and the rest of law-abiding citizens who didn't turn theirs in are now criminals.

Proves the old mantra I suppose: When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.

Re: Ex-member says MAIG's goal is confiscate legal guns

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 11:47 am
by VMI77
TomsTXCHL wrote:
VMI77 wrote:It didn't really work in Canada, Europe, or Australia either, as from what I've read there are large numbers of prohibited weapons in all those places.
Yeah let's see. All the criminals would keep their guns of course, and the rest of law-abiding citizens who didn't turn theirs in are now criminals.

Proves the old mantra I suppose: When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.
"Just as it is the duty of all men to obey just laws, so it is the duty of all men to disobey unjust laws." — Martin Luther King Jr.
"Life, faculties, production — in other words, individuality, liberty, property — this is man. And in spite of the cunning of artful political leaders, these three gifts from God precede all human legislation, and are superior to it. Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place." — Frederic Bastiat, The Law
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"The laws of this nature are those which forbid to wear arms, disarming those only who are not disposed to commit the crime which the laws mean to prevent. Can it be supposed, that those who have the courage to violate the most sacred laws of humanity, and the most important of the code, will respect the less considerable and arbitrary injunctions, the violation of which is so easy, and of so little comparative importance? Does not the execution of this law deprive the subject of that personal liberty, so dear to mankind and to the wise legislator? And does it not subject the innocent to all the disagreeable circumstances that should only fall on the guilty? It certainly makes the situation of the assaulted worse, and of the assailants better, and rather encourages than prevents murder, as it requires less courage to attack unarmed than armed persons." — Cesare Beccaria, Of Crimes and Punishments
"We can never forget that everything Adolf Hitler did in Germany was “legal” and everything the Hungarian freedom fighters did in Hungary was “illegal.”" — Martin Luther King Jr., Letter from Birmingham Jail (16 April, 1963)
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t is not, what a lawyer tells me I may do; but what humanity, reason, and justice, tells me I ought to do." — Edmund Burke
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Just sayin'

Re: Ex-member says MAIG's goal is confiscate legal guns

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:29 pm
by Jaguar
Making good people helpless won't make bad people harmless.