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Excaliber wrote:This sounds like a Rule 4 fail to me.

Yep, that was my first thought as well.

Oldgringo wrote:

Excaliber wrote:This sounds like a Rule 4 fail to me.

Yep, that was my first thought as well.

I have some cool metal targets that fall down if you hit the bullseye. There is a long string attached that is used to bring it back up. My back yard isn't very long, maybe 45 feet. The back of my house faces a major artery through Plano. Legacy is one very busy street. There is a brick retainer wall on the other side of the alley from my wood fence. If I open my back door and stand on the other side of my breakfast room, I can get a distance of about 60-65 feet. I was shooting my new telescopicly powered gamo super sonic pellet gun(AKA SNIPER RIFLE ) from inside my house at my cool metal squirrel target. I could pull the string without going outside and lift him back up if he falls. I am thinking all is good. I can't be seen. That is until one of my good neighbors, not the tard with the dog, makes a joke about me shooting my pellet gun out the back door. He had spotted me while driving down legacy. He said the sight of a guy with a scoped rifle pointing in the direction of the road was hard to miss.

The next time I drove don legacy I looked toward my house. I could see my entire back yard and back door. I thought I was hidden. From here on out, I can only shoot my pellet rifle in a prone position with camo netting draped over me.

03Lightningrocks wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:

Excaliber wrote:This sounds like a Rule 4 fail to me.

Yep, that was my first thought as well.

I have some cool metal targets that fall down if you hit the bullseye. There is a long string attached that is used to bring it back up. My back yard isn't very long, maybe 45 feet. The back of my house faces a major artery through Plano. Legacy is one very busy street. There is a brick retainer wall on the other side of the alley from my wood fence. If I open my back door and stand on the other side of my breakfast room, I can get a distance of about 60-65 feet. I was shooting my new telescopicly powered gamo super sonic pellet gun(AKA SNIPER RIFLE ) from inside my house at my cool metal squirrel target. I could pull the string without going outside and lift him back up if he falls. I am thinking all is good. I can't be seen. That is until one of my good neighbors, not the tard with the dog, makes a joke about me shooting my pellet gun out the back door. He had spotted me while driving down legacy. He said the sight of a guy with a scoped rifle pointing in the direction of the road was hard to miss.

The next time I drove don legacy I looked toward my house. I could see my entire back yard and back door. I thought I was hidden. From here on out, I can only shoot my pellet rifle in a prone position with camo netting draped over me.

Don' forget the anti reflection device for the scope.

Tough one. I don't know what pellet guns you guys shoot, but I have one that will easily take out small animals and at the correct range probably do the same to a person. Imagine going shopping for a home, glass shatters next to you that appears to be from a gun and you see a person with what appears to be a ak47? Do you call 911 or just keep shopping? Do the police come or just ignore the call? Seems like the authorities responded to the threat. The blame goes to the person that had no common sense and was observed to be armed after a round hit a building causing somebody to fear for their safety. He should be glad the reporting party didn't put a few rounds in his direction.

texanjoker wrote:Tough one. I don't know what pellet guns you guys shoot, but I have one that will easily take out small animals and at the correct range probably do the same to a person. Imagine going shopping for a home, glass shatters next to you that appears to be from a gun and you see a person with what appears to be a ak47? Do you call 911 or just keep shopping? Do the police come or just ignore the call? Seems like the authorities responded to the threat. The blame goes to the person that had no common sense and was observed to be armed after a round hit a building causing somebody to fear for their safety. He should be glad the reporting party didn't put a few rounds in his direction.

The authorities responded correctly to what they had reported to them, which was not at all the true situation...I have no problem with their response. I have a big problem with the Homeland Security agent being so clueless as to report an active shooter situation and that he was armed with a high powered scoped rifle. The window breaks from being struck by the pellet...he looks and sees the guy down the block with a gun, and even though the shooter was close enough to identify the type of rifle with the naked eye, he didn't hear a report from the shot, and yet he determines that it was a high powered rifle ?? I hope your last statement wasn't serious, and you don't honestly believe that someone (adult or child) accidentally breaking a window with a pellet rifle or BB gun, would even remotely justify that agent pulling his weapon and firing a few rounds at them! But if he had, I'm sure you'd tell us that we should wait for the investigation before forming an opinion that he was an idiot.

texanjoker wrote:Tough one. I don't know what pellet guns you guys shoot, but I have one that will easily take out small animals and at the correct range probably do the same to a person. Imagine going shopping for a home, glass shatters next to you that appears to be from a gun and you see a person with what appears to be a ak47? Do you call 911 or just keep shopping? Do the police come or just ignore the call? Seems like the authorities responded to the threat. The blame goes to the person that had no common sense and was observed to be armed after a round hit a building causing somebody to fear for their safety. He should be glad the reporting party didn't put a few rounds in his direction.

I agree with you. Seeing a person with a firearm in a circumstance that it is considered unusual is not something one should simply ignore.

While it may feel we are being impressive with this ridiculous notion that we would just ignore a person with a firearm where it doesn't belong, it does not equate to being pro second amendment. In reality, it tells me your situational awareness is crap if you just ignore mwag but are alerted by black dude with hoody.

We should all quit with the macho bravado over who is more RKBA than the next poster. Pretending the cops should not interview the person acting in such a manner is real troublesome. It also is living in denial of the realities of our times. It is also NO infringement of your RKBA. The majority of us see that act for what is. Ignorance, or a show of maschimo for your percieved Internet fan club.


I won't be responding to any childish "not me" I have a mission posts, since I don't believe you anyway.

I edited in an attempt to clear up the intentions of my post. It is actually not a personal attack on anyone. It is my opinion and the opinion of the majority of god fearing, law abiding, gun loving Americans. If you have a different opinion, great. But that does not make my opinion an attack. My post is actually an expansion and supporting post for law enforcements difficult task in dealing with protecting the public.

Excaliber wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:

Excaliber wrote:This sounds like a Rule 4 fail to me.

Yep, that was my first thought as well.

I have some cool metal targets that fall down if you hit the bullseye. There is a long string attached that is used to bring it back up. My back yard isn't very long, maybe 45 feet. The back of my house faces a major artery through Plano. Legacy is one very busy street. There is a brick retainer wall on the other side of the alley from my wood fence. If I open my back door and stand on the other side of my breakfast room, I can get a distance of about 60-65 feet. I was shooting my new telescopicly powered gamo super sonic pellet gun(AKA SNIPER RIFLE ) from inside my house at my cool metal squirrel target. I could pull the string without going outside and lift him back up if he falls. I am thinking all is good. I can't be seen. That is until one of my good neighbors, not the tard with the dog, makes a joke about me shooting my pellet gun out the back door. He had spotted me while driving down legacy. He said the sight of a guy with a scoped rifle pointing in the direction of the road was hard to miss.

The next time I drove don legacy I looked toward my house. I could see my entire back yard and back door. I thought I was hidden. From here on out, I can only shoot my pellet rifle in a prone position with camo netting draped over me.

Don' forget the anti reflection device for the scope.

Good idea. Since my shooting position is on my kitchen floor, I need to find camo netting that looks like Travertine tile.

03Lightningrocks wrote:

texanjoker wrote:Tough one. I don't know what pellet guns you guys shoot, but I have one that will easily take out small animals and at the correct range probably do the same to a person. Imagine going shopping for a home, glass shatters next to you that appears to be from a gun and you see a person with what appears to be a ak47? Do you call 911 or just keep shopping? Do the police come or just ignore the call? Seems like the authorities responded to the threat. The blame goes to the person that had no common sense and was observed to be armed after a round hit a building causing somebody to fear for their safety. He should be glad the reporting party didn't put a few rounds in his direction.

I agree with you. Seeing a person with a firearm in a circumstance that it is considered unusual is not something one should simply ignore.

While it may feel we are being impressive with this ridiculous notion that we would just ignore a person with a firearm where it doesn't belong, it does not equate to being pro second amendment. In reality, it tells me your situational awareness is crap if you just ignore mwag but are alerted by black dude with hoody.

We should all quit with the macho bravado over who is more RKBA than the next poster. Pretending the cops should not interview the person acting in such a manner is real troublesome. It also is living in denial of the realities of our times. It is also NO infringement of your RKBA. The majority of us see that act for what is. Ignorance, or a show of maschimo for your percieved Internet fan club.


I won't be responding to any childish "not me" I have a mission posts, since I don't believe you anyway.

I edited in an attempt to clear up the intentions of my post. It is actually not a personal attack on anyone. It is my opinion and the opinion of the majority of god fearing, law abiding, gun loving Americans. If you have a different opinion, great. But that does not make my opinion an attack. My post is actually an expansion and supporting post for law enforcements difficult task in dealing with protecting the public.

I'm still having difficulty understanding where you're coming from, and what your opinion is. I've read back through the entire thread a couple of times, and
don't see any reference, by anyone, concerning being pro second amendment ( although I think everyone on this forum is), any mention of a black hoody, or anyone saying anything about the RKBA. What is "that act" that the majority of us see as ignorance or a show of machismo?

talltex wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:

texanjoker wrote:Tough one. I don't know what pellet guns you guys shoot, but I have one that will easily take out small animals and at the correct range probably do the same to a person. Imagine going shopping for a home, glass shatters next to you that appears to be from a gun and you see a person with what appears to be a ak47? Do you call 911 or just keep shopping? Do the police come or just ignore the call? Seems like the authorities responded to the threat. The blame goes to the person that had no common sense and was observed to be armed after a round hit a building causing somebody to fear for their safety. He should be glad the reporting party didn't put a few rounds in his direction.

I agree with you. Seeing a person with a firearm in a circumstance that it is considered unusual is not something one should simply ignore.

While it may feel we are being impressive with this ridiculous notion that we would just ignore a person with a firearm where it doesn't belong, it does not equate to being pro second amendment. In reality, it tells me your situational awareness is crap if you just ignore mwag but are alerted by black dude with hoody.

We should all quit with the macho bravado over who is more RKBA than the next poster. Pretending the cops should not interview the person acting in such a manner is real troublesome. It also is living in denial of the realities of our times. It is also NO infringement of your RKBA. The majority of us see that act for what is. Ignorance, or a show of maschimo for your percieved Internet fan club.


I won't be responding to any childish "not me" I have a mission posts, since I don't believe you anyway.

I edited in an attempt to clear up the intentions of my post. It is actually not a personal attack on anyone. It is my opinion and the opinion of the majority of god fearing, law abiding, gun loving Americans. If you have a different opinion, great. But that does not make my opinion an attack. My post is actually an expansion and supporting post for law enforcements difficult task in dealing with protecting the public.

I'm still having difficulty understanding where you're coming from, and what your opinion is. I've read back through the entire thread a couple of times, and
don't see any reference, by anyone, concerning being pro second amendment ( although I think everyone on this forum is), any mention of a black hoody, or anyone saying anything about the RKBA. What is "that act" that the majority of us see as ignorance or a show of machismo?

I suppose you have read no other threads on this forum and if you did you don't remember anything you did read? It is not all about this thread only. Think Bigger than that.

talltex wrote:Sure makes my confidence level in Homeland Security skyrocket...a pellet breaks a window in the house he's looking at and he calls it in as "an active shooter with a high powered rifle with a telescopic sight" ? I guess he assumed it had really good silencer also, since he couldn't have heard a normal report. From the video, it appears his report resulted in at least a dozen patrol units and a SWAT unit on the scene and two schools placed on lockdown. Good job!

For instance. You post right here as if you think someone over reacted. This makes you one of the folks who act as if the cops should just blow off a guy with a rifle. This makes you one of the very folks I was speaking to. Bulls Eye!!!

talltex wrote:The authorities responded correctly to what they had reported to them, which was not at all the true situation...I have no problem with their response. I have a big problem with the Homeland Security agent being so clueless as to report an active shooter situation and that he was armed with a high powered scoped rifle. The window breaks from being struck by the pellet...he looks and sees the guy down the block with a gun, and even though the shooter was close enough to identify the type of rifle with the naked eye, he didn't hear a report from the shot, and yet he determines that it was a high powered rifle ??

I don't think that's what I said... I definitely DO think the Homeland Security agent overreacted. As I said in the above post, the Police responded the only way they could based on the info the agent gave them, but he made a huge leap to call it in the way he did, and as a result, alot of time and resources were expended needlessly, the people living in the area were afraid a sniper was running loose, and two schools were placed on lockdown. That was what the sarcastic "good job" was in reference to...not the police response. I suppose I should have said "Good job, DHS" to make it clearer.

Air/Pellet/BB guns are NOT toys! All the rules apply all the time. We stress this greatly in our safety trainings to 4-H youth for Shooting Sports. The following is an example of just how not a joke these tools are.

http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/seantonjorden

This young man, the friend who shot him and their families are in my prayers often.

After watching the video, I wonder if there was a racist element to the DHS sniper assumption.

Ameer wrote:After watching the video, I wonder if there was a racist element to the DHS sniper assumption.

Based on what? I may have missed something important, but I didn't notice anything that indicated racist behavior.