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I realize you didn't ask for advice, so ignore me if I am out of line. At 8 yards your shots are pretty all over the place. It leads me to believe that you are jerking or snatching at the trigger, and perhaps letting the front sight get too high. Slow down and smooth out the trigger.

Slow is smooth. Was it Bill Jordan who said " speed is fine, but accuracy is final"?[/quote]

any advice will be helpful...grew up around guns but all were either rifle or shotguns.. only shot pistols coule of times.... In the Navy basically only shooting was annually for pistol quals... when my wife bought me this 1911 last November its the first pistol that was truly mine... will keep trying out different distance and slow down.... slow and steady sounds like a familiar mantra

thanks for all the advice and suggestions

I practice from 100yds to 3, do pretty good well enough infact to have expert qualification for the army. Been doing this for over 30 years and am NOT gonna stop

03Lightningrocks wrote:

gringo pistolero wrote:

RetNavy wrote:

target.jpg

50 rds at 25 feet approximately

No matter what distance I start at, if I can't keep everything in a 7-8" circle, I move closer until I can.

Same here. I noticed four "fliers" on that target. That is what I get when I try shooting my carry weapons at fifty yards. Those fliers represent dead innocent bystanders to me and a legal situation I don't want any part of. The shots all over the shoulders and what not represent non lethal hits and a possibility the other guy is able to continue the attack.

I'm going with seeking cover or putting distance between us at fifty yards. Probably a little of both.

At 25 feet, at self defense speeds with my carry weapons, my rounds are all in the eight inch circle you speak of. Typically even tighter than 8" if I take slow controlled shots.

I think one of my problems with might sight picture is that I wear bifocals and if i dont sight with them the sights are all blurry... Saturday when i shot I was wearing prescription sunglasses without bifocals.... going try nice and slow fire, taking time to sight correctly (using my bifocals) and try to get a better grouping


as for the fliers.... wasnt going to mention it but two were my wifes she shot a couple rounds at mine target.... rest are mine

thanks again for all the advice....

RetNavy wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:

gringo pistolero wrote:

RetNavy wrote:

target.jpg

50 rds at 25 feet approximately

No matter what distance I start at, if I can't keep everything in a 7-8" circle, I move closer until I can.

Same here. I noticed four "fliers" on that target. That is what I get when I try shooting my carry weapons at fifty yards. Those fliers represent dead innocent bystanders to me and a legal situation I don't want any part of. The shots all over the shoulders and what not represent non lethal hits and a possibility the other guy is able to continue the attack.

I'm going with seeking cover or putting distance between us at fifty yards. Probably a little of both.

At 25 feet, at self defense speeds with my carry weapons, my rounds are all in the eight inch circle you speak of. Typically even tighter than 8" if I take slow controlled shots.

I think one of my problems with might sight picture is that I wear bifocals and if i dont sight with them the sights are all blurry... Saturday when i shot I was wearing prescription sunglasses without bifocals.... going try nice and slow fire, taking time to sight correctly (using my bifocals) and try to get a better grouping


as for the fliers.... wasnt going to mention it but two were my wifes she shot a couple rounds at mine target.... rest are mine

thanks again for all the advice....

I have a similar problem. I wear progressive lens trifocals. I have to focus on the sights out of the bottom of my glasses, which leaves the target blurry but at 50 yards or less, I can make out enough of it to hit where I am aiming. My shooting improved greatly when I began focusing on my front sight.

I asked about this problem on a post and a few posters told me we could get glasses made for this situation. Maybe they will spot this and remind us of what they did. My only issue with "special" made glasses for shooting is that I won't likely be wearing them in a self defense situation.

03Lightningrocks wrote:I asked about this problem on a post and a few posters told me we could get glasses made for this situation. Maybe they will spot this and remind us of what they did. My only issue with "special" made glasses for shooting is that I won't likely be wearing them in a self defense situation.

It's one thing to get special gear for competition, but self defense training should be done with your everyday gear, gun and glasses.

nightmare wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:I asked about this problem on a post and a few posters told me we could get glasses made for this situation. Maybe they will spot this and remind us of what they did. My only issue with "special" made glasses for shooting is that I won't likely be wearing them in a self defense situation.

It's one thing to get special gear for competition, but self defense training should be done with your everyday gear, gun and glasses.

went out this afternoon and tried again.... slow down took time.... grouping a little better... actually tried shooting with both eyes open.... seemed about the same.... shooting with my normal everyday glasses.... distance 3 yrds to 25 ft.... one thing i know is going to take ALOT more practice.... have probably shot more since November than I have in the past 15 years

RetNavy wrote:

nightmare wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:I asked about this problem on a post and a few posters told me we could get glasses made for this situation. Maybe they will spot this and remind us of what they did. My only issue with "special" made glasses for shooting is that I won't likely be wearing them in a self defense situation.

It's one thing to get special gear for competition, but self defense training should be done with your everyday gear, gun and glasses.

went out this afternoon and tried again.... slow down took time.... grouping a little better... actually tried shooting with both eyes open.... seemed about the same.... shooting with my normal everyday glasses.... distance 3 yrds to 25 ft.... one thing i know is going to take ALOT more practice.... have probably shot more since November than I have in the past 15 years

You may have said and I missed it, but are you shooting indoors or out? For whatever reason, I shoot much better outdoors. Even better on private property with only people I know and trust around. I think it might be trying to keep one eye on the target and another on all the fools around me.

jmra wrote:

RetNavy wrote:

nightmare wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:I asked about this problem on a post and a few posters told me we could get glasses made for this situation. Maybe they will spot this and remind us of what they did. My
You may have said and I missed it, but are you shooting indoors or out? For whatever reason, I shoot much better outdoors. Even better on private property with only people I know and trust around. I think it might be trying to keep one eye on the target and another on all the fools around me.

private land outdoors, just myself this afternoon.... Saturday had my wife with me... she was shooting at her target at the same time...

Something I practice quite a bit and have gotten pretty good at is "instinct shooting". Maybe not the right description but that is what I call it. I will stare at a small as possible spot on the target, lift my pistol into a proper stance/grip and fire without ever looking at the gun or sights. I am willing to bet this is going to be more of an asset to me than firing perfect strings utilizing my sights should I be forced to defend myself.

I dunno, it works for me. Give it a try. If nothing else it is fun to do.

03Lightningrocks wrote:Something I practice quite a bit and have gotten pretty good at is "instinct shooting". Maybe not the right description but that is what I call it. I will stare at a small as possible spot on the target, lift my pistol and fire without ever looking at the gun or sights. I am willing to bet this is going to be more of an asset to me than firing perfect strings utilizing my sights should I be forced to defend myself.

I dunno, it works for me. Give it a try. If nothing else it is fun to do.

sounds good... will give it a try.... sort of using the "Force"