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Re: Employer Wants To Know About Firearms/CHL

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:06 pm
by jmra
rotor wrote:I believe that would be a hipaa violation for them to go through your medical records unless your boss is your doctor. Big $$$ violation.
The way I read the form, signing it gives them authorization to access the data.

Re: Employer Wants To Know About Firearms/CHL

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:24 pm
by SewTexas
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's illegal for them to ask any of this as a condition of employment....this stuff is insurance stuff, medical stuff, it has absolutely nothing to do with how good you are at your job.

Re: Employer Wants To Know About Firearms/CHL

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:25 pm
by SewTexas
FML wrote:I would ignore the request. If my manager asked, I would orally explain that my personal medical history is private, and there's no legitimate reason for the request because I do not provide patient care.

I would also start looking for a new job. I would seriously consider not giving advance notice when I changed jobs. Texas law does not require it and a company like that hasn't earned it.
:iagree:

Re: Employer Wants To Know About Firearms/CHL

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:20 pm
by RJGold
The dangerous weapon thing floors me. I am sitting here looking at my gun safe. None of the weapons in there seem dangerous to me. They're just sitting there. I'm going to bed in a little while and I'm not at all worried any of those weapons will attack me in the night...

As others have said, I'd talk to a lawyer before I answered. Unfortunately, I think you are in the company policy vs. law zone. They can demand many things from you as a condition of employment. If you don't comply, they can terminate you but can't send you to prison.

My two cents...

Re: Employer Wants To Know About Firearms/CHL

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:39 pm
by rotor
jmra wrote:
rotor wrote:I believe that would be a hipaa violation for them to go through your medical records unless your boss is your doctor. Big $$$ violation.
The way I read the form, signing it gives them authorization to access the data.
That's even more scary.

Re: Employer Wants To Know About Firearms/CHL

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:09 pm
by jmra
rotor wrote:
jmra wrote:
rotor wrote:I believe that would be a hipaa violation for them to go through your medical records unless your boss is your doctor. Big $$$ violation.
The way I read the form, signing it gives them authorization to access the data.
That's even more scary.
:iagree:

Re: Employer Wants To Know About Firearms/CHL

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:12 pm
by ghostrider
In the quest to "care for our employees" my employer is forcing everyone to electronically submit "Medical History" and "Domestic Assessment" surveys consisting of the following areas:
That is so wrong. What has become of this country?

Re: Employer Wants To Know About Firearms/CHL

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 6:23 am
by Zen
The problem is that once asked a refusal to answer will be viewed as an affirmative response

For the purposes of privacy, the cat is essentially out of the bag.

Re: Employer Wants To Know About Firearms/CHL

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 6:25 am
by anygunanywhere
I am pretty certain I would have told whoever it is pushing this to pack sand the very second I was informed of this. I quit a job once because I was told to get a haircut.

Anygunanywhere

Re: Employer Wants To Know About Firearms/CHL

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 7:20 am
by Cedar Park Dad
FML wrote:I would ignore the request. If my manager asked, I would orally explain that my personal medical history is private, and there's no legitimate reason for the request because I do not provide patient care.

I would also start looking for a new job. I would seriously consider not giving advance notice when I changed jobs. Texas law does not require it and a company like that hasn't earned it.
Agreed. There is no reason for an employer to have any of that information- medical or otherwise. There might be legal issues here that trump termination at will in this instance as some of that could be used for defacto age or disability discrimination (I am not an attorney on this, I can just see an argument being made here potentially). The whole thing sounds extremely suspicious like an HR flunkie's gone overboard.

Re: Employer Wants To Know About Firearms/CHL

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:15 am
by MarshalMatt
You should certainly seek a legal opinion from a qualified labor law attorney. Without knowing exactly what your job responsibilities are, it is difficult to say, but I can't imagine that all these invasive questions are appropriate. If the lawyer says you should answer them, I would answer them according to what is best for YOU, not the company. JMO...

Re: Employer Wants To Know About Firearms/CHL

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:33 am
by SewTexas
"Do you take part in activities with firearms or other dangerous weapons? "
I slice onions, so I use knives.
I own dogs, someone used a dog as a weapon according to the news, so.....
I use to own a chainsaw, we Texans know allllll about those :biggrinjester:
I sew, so therefore, very sharp scissors and rotary cutters, oh dear.....

sooooo, yep, I guess I do, I'm just a walking arsenal and that's not counting the...ummm, arsenal...... :biggrinjester: :biggrinjester: :biggrinjester:

Re: Employer Wants To Know About Firearms/CHL

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:42 am
by Charles L. Cotton
scottmeador wrote:Unfortunately, my employer owns the EHR system on which most of my medical records are stored so it will be real easy for them to check.
Can you print this questionnaire and email it to me for use in the 2015 Texas Legislative Session?

Thanks,
Chas.

Re: Employer Wants To Know About Firearms/CHL

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:48 am
by SewTexas
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
scottmeador wrote:Unfortunately, my employer owns the EHR system on which most of my medical records are stored so it will be real easy for them to check.
Can you print this questionnaire and email it to me for use in the 2015 Texas Legislative Session?

Thanks,
Chas.

go, Mr Cotton, go!!!!
:hurry: :hurry:

Re: Employer Wants To Know About Firearms/CHL

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:12 am
by OldGrumpy
rotor wrote:I believe that would be a hipaa violation for them to go through your medical records unless your boss is your doctor. Big $$$ violation.
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:iagree:
:patriot: :txflag: