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Ok let me try this one more time, & I apologize if I sound redundant. Let me give you an example. Let's say I want to appt for a new CHL. I'm just a regular standard applicant, born in USA, not military, nada, just a regular Joe. Let's say I go online, enter my information & pay the application fee to the state via credit card. Let's say I did this on June 1, 2014. Now, I never printed anything nor mailed, emailed or faxed anything to DPS. I haven't even taken the course yet.. Let's fast forward to April 2015, I suddenly remember I paid online back in June of 2014, I run take my course, get my CHL-100, & I mail it to the state. I also go get my prints taken at L1. I promise you 100%, they would not terminate my pending online payment in this scenario. Now, let's say I took the course back in June & I mailed my CHL-100 form but forgot to sign it. They would send me a 90 day letter to correct that or else my whole app is terminated. Big difference.

I know for a fact that they are still to this day honoring the one year web app grace period.

Wow. Glad I asked this question. Apparently I wasn't the only one who wasn't sure.

RossA wrote:Wow. Glad I asked this question. Apparently I wasn't the only one who wasn't sure.

Well, there's the law and there's DPS. The two don't always see eye to eye.

[quote="jmra"
Well, there's the law and there's DPS. The two don't always see eye to eye.[/quote]

Ain't it the truth.

jmra wrote:

RossA wrote:Wow. Glad I asked this question. Apparently I wasn't the only one who wasn't sure.

Well, there's the law and there's DPS. The two don't always see eye to eye.

And... What DPS says, what DPS does, and what DPS changes and doesn't tell anybody about.

It used to be 6 months for a CHL100 renewal, 2 years for a CHL 100 initial, 1 yr for an application and 90 days to respond to any communication. They may have changed the time limits but they sure have not notified the instructors. Sherrie may not have understood the question, may have mispoke and you might have misinterpreted what she said.

I'd kind of like to know what the answer really is. :)

Incidentally, originally, CHL 100's did NOT have an expiration but DPS decided to institute the 2 year rule. :(

And we know they are NOT following the law about renewing licences. :)

I can tell you the rule: 2 years for CHL-100, 1 year grace period for renewals, 1 year for web app payment, 90 days for missing/incomplete documents/fees. I promise I'm right about this. You can call anyone at their customer line & they'd tell you the same.

If DPS ever reads the law, that 1 year grace period will go away. :)

They wouldn't be able to handle all the angry renewals that would bombard them. There's tons of people who wait until after their expiration dates. Can you imagine how mad a person would get if their CHL expired & they tried to renew 2 days after and were told No.? I don't see them doing away with the one year grace period anytime soon.

infoman wrote:They wouldn't be able to handle all the angry renewals that would bombard them. There's tons of people who wait until after their expiration dates. Can you imagine how mad a person would get if their CHL expired & they tried to renew 2 days after and were told No.? I don't see them doing away with the one year grace period anytime soon.

It's not like they have to follow the law...

switch wrote:If DPS ever reads the law, that 1 year grace period will go away. :)

Since they obviously are ignoring the letter of the law they must view it more like suggested guidelines.

jmra wrote:

switch wrote:If DPS ever reads the law, that 1 year grace period will go away. :)

Since they obviously are ignoring the letter of the law they must view it more like suggested guidelines.

OK, drop the DPS bashing now.

The 1 year renewal grace period is still posted on DPS website plain as day. Texas Administrative Code 6.15. look up the admin code from their site.

infoman wrote:The 1 year renewal grace period is still posted on DPS website plain as day. Texas Administrative Code 6.15. look up the admin code from their site.

It is my understanding that when part of the code is changed (such as was done in Sep) and there is a conflict with pre-existing code, the last to pass takes precedence. There is obviously a conflict between the two sections and there is no doubt about which is the latest. Perhaps some of the lawyers of the forum could chime in.