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sominus wrote:Personally, I didn't want to go home without a weapon, not realizing at the time that she has been apprehended. I fully expected to find "someone" parked near my house (fortunately the next door neighbor is a state trooper). My wife and I contemplated grabbing the kids from school and going to a hotel -- that's how seriously we take the threat this woman represents. This scare is why I took my CHL course this past weekend, and why I actually bought a weapon on the way home from work. While I've wanted 1) my CHL and 2) the weapon I bought for a while, this event accelerated both a bit.

My lizard-brain says "shoot on sight if she is on my property". She has NO business being there -- her rights were terminated with regards to the child we had together. The threat she represents is real, BUT: Words and mere trespass do not constitute that type of response. While they could imprison her for that, its a "sticks and stones" situation until it escalates.

What is the legal ground/basis here?

esxmarkc wrote: And you consider this a BORDERLINE personality disorder?!??! That's like saying Obama is only slightly liberal.

I'm really hoping you got a full refund from the dating service.



Just messing with ya of course.

MotherBear wrote:I'd stay armed and vigilant, but I think you have to evaluate the immediate level of threat. Can you stay inside and call the police if she shows up? Is she empty-handed and seeming rational (still wouldn't trust her, but wouldn't shoot her either) or screaming and swinging a baseball bat? Is she accompanied by a few thugs wearing black hoodies? I'd definitely consider a home security system if you don't already have one, preferably one you can check from a remote location.

I also think that when I found out she was on the loose, I'd have called my local law enforcement agencies. I live in a smaller town just outside Austin, and the police here are pretty friendly and proactive. If they knew a convicted felon had slipped parole and was possibly on her way to the area wanting to harm a resident, I suspect they'd pass around a photos and keep an eye out for her just in case. I think they'd also be inclined to temporarily increase patrols in the neighborhood if they felt the threat was credible. And if you found out while away from home that she was on the loose and were concerned that your home was already compromised, I feel fairly confident that my local police department would be happy to make a quick check of the house before you went in. Worst-case scenario, you have big-city cops who are too busy to actually do anything but you at least have it on record that you were concerned and tried to take measures to avoid a situation.

Just what occurs to me off the top of my head.

sjfcontrol wrote:Don't open the door. If she breaks in, you're justified in the use of deadly force.

Keith B wrote:Hypotetically, I would not open the door, call the hypotetical police, and let them hypotehtically arrest her.

Per the penal code, verbal threats are not jsutification for use of force OR deadly force.

JP171 wrote:2 words, lead poisoning

sominus wrote:So let's pretend that my ex-wife was sentenced to 15 years in the Texas pokey for a murder-for-hire plot. Remember, we're just pretending here.

Let's also pretend that, while in prison, she tried to get someone to find someone to take ME out. Again, this is "hypothetical". (wink wink)

Since we're pretending so much, let's stretch it out a little further and say that she was paroled to Austin about a month ago and put on an ankle monitor.

And let's say that she went missing for a while last week.....

If said ex-wife, who has a restraining order against her for "no contact under any circumstances in any manner" were to show up on your doorstep in Houston, what would YOU do? Remember, there is a credible threat by a convicted felon against your life here...

And, hypothetically, this isn't a hypothetical situation. The only "hypothetical" part to it is that she didn't actually get to Houston -- she was apprehended in Austin.

-M

Although considered a lifelong disorder, some symptoms — particularly destructive and criminal behavior and the use of alcohol or drugs — may decrease over time, but it's not clear whether this decrease is a result of aging or an increased awareness of the consequences of antisocial behavior.
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...and, oddly enough, we met on Yahoo Personals back in 1998.