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The Wall wrote:
ShootDontTalk wrote:I'd like to find the Garand my father-in-law carried from D-Day until VE Day. Fat chance!
Have you tried? Do you have serial number? I can't imagine how you would even start the search. Perhaps post it on every gun forum and auction house you can find.
I don't have the serial number. He talked very little about his experiences, (as most WWII vets), but we knew he had 3 Purple Hearts, two occurred in Normandy. The times he went for treatment he said he was given a new rifle each time after returning to his unit. He was in the MP Platoon, 2nd Inf. Div. I think these were relatively minor wounds. The third time he was wounded was more serious and occurred sometime after December 1944.
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Nothing on my list as fine as some of the older weapons named. Waiting for Glock 43 to get past their teething period.

TAM,
When researching M1 Garand some years ago I came across information that there was a short transition period where 30-06 M1s were sleeved in the chamber to shoot .308. Hate to say it, but it was a U.S. Navy plan/project. It did not work out and I didn't find any information as to how many conversions were done. It has been reported the conversions were surplussed. Reamed chamber, good to go... Sleeved and it a wall-hanger. :shock:

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AlaskanInTexas wrote:I'll start: Marlin 1895sbl ss/laminate in .45-70

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I see them online now and again, but there was a period of time there where the workmanship was horrendous, so I've got to see it in person before I buy it.
Good choice. I've had my eye on that one for a while. My son's shop had one in for a while, but it went fairly quickly. Haven't seen one in person since then.

I already own my dad's 1943 Ithaca 1911A1 from WW2 (there's a story that comes with it), and I own a nearly perfect 1943 Inland M1 Carbine just like the one he carried ashore at Iwo Jima, but I would like to own a 40s vintage Garand........although I'd take a later one without complaint......even though he didn't carry one himself.
Get with the CMP about that Garand. It's only a printer & a trip to the UPS store away.

With the prices they have now, its a welfare rifle.
I note that of the two "Special" grade Garands being offered, one is chambered in .308 instead of .30-06. I have 3 other rifles in that caliber, so ammo would be convenient. I know that the .30-06 rifles are authentic, but I was wondering if there was any reason other than that to NOT buy a .308 chambered Garand. On the other hand, maybe .30-06 is easier to find when ammo gets scarce.
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3 or 4 inch Ruger SP101 sized (as near as possible) .41 mag .... and preferable Ruger made

Then a 16 inch '92 (or '94 if need be) in .41 mag

And, maybe a stainless Black Hawk Hunter .... in .41 mag

When that wish list is fulfilled, there will be some .357's and .44 mags "on the market. (with a bunch of components to be traded .... for .41 mag)

Never owned a .41 mag but been intrigued with the thought of a "one caliber solution" for several years :)


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mr surveyor wrote:3 or 4 inch Ruger SP101 sized (as near as possible) .41 mag .... and preferable Ruger made

Then a 16 inch '92 (or '94 if need be) in .41 mag

And, maybe a stainless Black Hawk Hunter .... in .41 mag

When that wish list is fulfilled, there will be some .357's and .44 mags "on the market. (with a bunch of components to be traded .... for .41 mag)

Never owned a .41 mag but been intrigued with the thought of a "one caliber solution" for several years :)


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If they -made- any of those... :biggrinjester:

I doubt the SP101 has the cylinder space for a .41 Magnum. A GP100, in 5-shot configuration (akin to the S&W 696, IIRC), would probably work, but there's just not enough steel (even in a Ruger) to cram a sufficient number of rounds into what was designed as a 5-shot .357.

For me and my big-bore needs, I'll stick with the .45 Colt / .454 Casull combo. I already have the revolver, a Ruger Alaskan; I suspect that a Rossi/Puma .454 clone of an 1892 Winchester may be in my future, next couple years. Absent that, and it's a .44 Redhawk paired with a Rossi/Puma .44 lever-gun.
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OK, I know I've already mentioned two guns, but I'll take them back if I have to in order to ad this one:
Girandoni air rifle as used by Lewis and Clark.
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=-pqFyKh-rUI[/youtube]

As this is pure fantasy anyway, I guess I can keep all of them. :mrgreen:
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JSThane wrote:
mr surveyor wrote:3 or 4 inch Ruger SP101 sized (as near as possible) .41 mag .... and preferable Ruger made

Then a 16 inch '92 (or '94 if need be) in .41 mag

And, maybe a stainless Black Hawk Hunter .... in .41 mag

When that wish list is fulfilled, there will be some .357's and .44 mags "on the market. (with a bunch of components to be traded .... for .41 mag)

Never owned a .41 mag but been intrigued with the thought of a "one caliber solution" for several years :)


jd
If they -made- any of those... :biggrinjester:

I doubt the SP101 has the cylinder space for a .41 Magnum. A GP100, in 5-shot configuration (akin to the S&W 696, IIRC), would probably work, but there's just not enough steel (even in a Ruger) to cram a sufficient number of rounds into what was designed as a 5-shot .357.

For me and my big-bore needs, I'll stick with the .45 Colt / .454 Casull combo. I already have the revolver, a Ruger Alaskan; I suspect that a Rossi/Puma .454 clone of an 1892 Winchester may be in my future, next couple years. Absent that, and it's a .44 Redhawk paired with a Rossi/Puma .44 lever-gun.

yep, I know the cylinder window on the SP is too small for the .41 (I carry a 3" SP101), "as near as possible". I need the smaller frame, shorter trigger reach du to being "digitally challenged". I also have the Super Red Hawk .44 mag that I shoot quite well single action, but my short stubby trigger finger has to really struggle with double action shots. I NEED the shorter trigger pull of a frame between the SP and the GP ... which should be quite doable for the .41 magnum cylinder requirements. Currently a 20" Rossi R92 is the companion to my SRH, and they do make a decent pair ... and somewhat uncommonly they shoot some handloads (not all ;) ) equally well.

I'm still holding out for Ruger to build me that "in betweener" in .41 mag :)


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mr surveyor wrote: [snip]
I need the smaller frame, shorter trigger reach du to being "digitally challenged". I also have the Super Red Hawk .44 mag that I shoot quite well single action, but my short stubby trigger finger has to really struggle with double action shots. I NEED the shorter trigger pull of a frame between the SP and the GP ... which should be quite doable for the .41 magnum cylinder requirements. Currently a 20" Rossi R92 is the companion to my SRH, and they do make a decent pair ... and somewhat uncommonly they shoot some handloads (not all ;) ) equally well.

I'm still holding out for Ruger to build me that "in betweener" in .41 mag :)


jd
Given the frame/grip arrangement of the GP100 series and the SRH, I imagine you could probably find someone to make "shorter" custom grips for you. I somewhat doubt, however, that Ruger's going to produce the .41 in anything other than special-run Blackhawks, though. :cryin It's a bit of a shame.

Although, if I remember correctly, they DID make a run of .41 Magnum Redhawks some years back. Assuming you -really- wanted the build (and were willing to spend the money), I'd think a gunsmith might be able to cannibalize a .41 Redhawk and possibly a GP100 (and accompanying cylinder blank) to put something together, and make you some custom grips to go along with it. Bowen Custom ( http://www.bowenclassicarms.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ) might do it, if you could afford it.

Edited to add: If you do chop up a .41 Redhawk to make a .41 GP100, -please- do NOT post pictures of it anywhere I might see it! I would cry at the loss of a classic, no-longer-produced, Ruger! :cryin
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JSThane wrote:
mr surveyor wrote: [snip]
I need the smaller frame, shorter trigger reach du to being "digitally challenged". I also have the Super Red Hawk .44 mag that I shoot quite well single action, but my short stubby trigger finger has to really struggle with double action shots. I NEED the shorter trigger pull of a frame between the SP and the GP ... which should be quite doable for the .41 magnum cylinder requirements. Currently a 20" Rossi R92 is the companion to my SRH, and they do make a decent pair ... and somewhat uncommonly they shoot some handloads (not all ;) ) equally well.

I'm still holding out for Ruger to build me that "in betweener" in .41 mag :)


jd
Given the frame/grip arrangement of the GP100 series and the SRH, I imagine you could probably find someone to make "shorter" custom grips for you. I somewhat doubt, however, that Ruger's going to produce the .41 in anything other than special-run Blackhawks, though. :cryin It's a bit of a shame.

Although, if I remember correctly, they DID make a run of .41 Magnum Redhawks some years back. Assuming you -really- wanted the build (and were willing to spend the money), I'd think a gunsmith might be able to cannibalize a .41 Redhawk and possibly a GP100 (and accompanying cylinder blank) to put something together, and make you some custom grips to go along with it. Bowen Custom ( http://www.bowenclassicarms.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ) might do it, if you could afford it.

Edited to add: If you do chop up a .41 Redhawk to make a .41 GP100, -please- do NOT post pictures of it anywhere I might see it! I would cry at the loss of a classic, no-longer-produced, Ruger! :cryin


yep, I guess I'm doomed to the inferior, impotent .357 mag round in the SP101 for the last of my carry/shooting years ;-)

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consider a 4" S&W 610. 10mm will give close to .41 mag level performance, and recoil is manageable. 610 is essentially an 'L' frame, so you still have acceptable trigger reach with relatively small hands. Subjectively, I find it more pleasant to shoot than my SP101 3".

mr surveyor wrote:3 or 4 inch Ruger SP101 sized (as near as possible) .41 mag .... and preferable Ruger made

Then a 16 inch '92 (or '94 if need be) in .41 mag

And, maybe a stainless Black Hawk Hunter .... in .41 mag

When that wish list is fulfilled, there will be some .357's and .44 mags "on the market. (with a bunch of components to be traded .... for .41 mag)

Never owned a .41 mag but been intrigued with the thought of a "one caliber solution" for several years :)


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1895 Winchester in 405......one of the repro's, NIB.......
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned one of my favorites: a WWII issue Thompson Sub-Machine Gun. These are some of the most timeless guns to me. Also on my list is a WWII issue Garand. Someday haha
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JustSomeOldGuy wrote:consider a 4" S&W 610. 10mm will give close to .41 mag level performance, and recoil is manageable. 610 is essentially an 'L' frame, so you still have acceptable trigger reach with relatively small hands. Subjectively, I find it more pleasant to shoot than my SP101 3".

mr surveyor wrote:3 or 4 inch Ruger SP101 sized (as near as possible) .41 mag .... and preferable Ruger made

Then a 16 inch '92 (or '94 if need be) in .41 mag

And, maybe a stainless Black Hawk Hunter .... in .41 mag

When that wish list is fulfilled, there will be some .357's and .44 mags "on the market. (with a bunch of components to be traded .... for .41 mag)

Never owned a .41 mag but been intrigued with the thought of a "one caliber solution" for several years :)


jd


gotta be a shorter trigger reach than the 610 for D/A for me ... thus the reason for my "wish list"


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