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Re: 8 year old Playing with gun dies. No. 4 Houston
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:58 pm
by mojo84
Charles makes a good point. Further to his comment, we have to remember along with Liberty comes risk. It shouldn't take laws to make us do what is prudent and safe.
Unfortunately, in our narcissistic entitlement society, I believe the idea of a criminal penalty is the predominate deterrent for some over the chance of a child being killed. I know it's a sad comment but considering how many people endanger kids in other ways with driving and drugs, I believe it's true.
Re: 8 year old Playing with gun dies. No. 4 Houston
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:04 pm
by Middle Age Russ

as well with Charles' comments in general. I do, however, find it difficult to term events such as this accidents. For me, they fall under the broad category of negligence and are for the most part avoidable. Education is indeed one key toward avoiding such tragedies -- education not only for gun owners but also for kids. Eddie Eagle is a great program, as is NSSF's Project ChildSafe. These programs don't reach nearly as many ears as need to hear them. Another key to avoiding such tragedies is a society infected with personal responsibility and accountability. Unfortunately, as we allow the powers-that-be to destroy the family and other positively guiding influences on society, we (as a society -- though I realize the audience here is an exception) have also abdicated accountability and personal responsibility in favor of political correctness and the State as a de-facto deity.
Re: 8 year old Playing with gun dies. No. 4 Houston
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 1:15 pm
by TXBO
Charles L. Cotton wrote: ...... Gun owners' track record is also improving, likely because of a push for firearms safety training. We need to keep educating parents on how to secure their firearms to reduce accidents further.
Chas.
I think the explosive rate at which women are training and carrying has a lot to do with the decline in firearms accidents. They don't bring the egos to training that men do.
Re: 8 year old Playing with gun dies. No. 4 Houston
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:52 pm
by doncb
mojo84 wrote: "...we have to remember along with Liberty comes risk. It shouldn't take laws to make us do what is prudent and safe. ..."
I would change that from "risk" to responsibility.
Re: 8 year old Playing with gun dies. No. 4 Houston
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:15 pm
by mojo84
doncb wrote:mojo84 wrote: "...we have to remember along with Liberty comes risk. It shouldn't take laws to make us do what is prudent and safe. ..."
I would change that from "risk" to responsibility.
Change it if you want but they both apply. Do they not?
Re: 8 year old Playing with gun dies. No. 4 Houston
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:38 pm
by doncb
mojo84 wrote:doncb wrote:mojo84 wrote: "...we have to remember along with Liberty comes risk. It shouldn't take laws to make us do what is prudent and safe. ..."
I would change that from "risk" to responsibility.
Change it if you want but they both apply. Do they not?
I was thinking more in the context of this instance. If the gun owner had shown more responsibility the kids wouldn't have had access to the gun.
In the larger picture of life in general, yes they do without a doubt both apply.