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ShootDontTalk wrote:With all due respect, if you're watching the History Channel and expecting to find real history, or anything else accurately portrayed, you'd be better off watching Bugs Bunny. They have, pardon the pun, a pretty sad history of gross inaccuracies.

MONGOOSE wrote:Your assumption that I want to belittle others is rather presumptuous . I have no desire to do that. Since pressurized water can obtain temps of 700 degrees F, I don' think finding 300 degree water is too far a reach.

The problem being that they stated that it was a volcanic pool at the surface under normal atmospheric pressure and as you have stated, the water must be pressurized in order to reach higher temperatures. Water lying in pools, even fed from volcanic vents, is not pressurized.

Sure they weren't talking about fumaroles? That would make sense since they are often that or higher.

ShootDontTalk wrote:With all due respect, if you're watching the History Channel and expecting to find real history, or anything else accurately portrayed, you'd be better off watching Bugs Bunny. They have, pardon the pun, a pretty sad history of gross inaccuracies.

That's kind of the point of my post. Texas Rising is a perfect example. I stopped watching television decades ago... I keep an eye on it!

puma guy wrote:That's kind of the point of my post. Texas Rising is a perfect example. I stopped watching television decades ago... I keep an eye on it!

Yeah, Texas Rising should have been named "History Channel Sinking." I was so disgusted with that nonsense that I ordered the movie version of James Michner's "Texas." It was made quite a while back, but doesn't suffer the stupidity of the uhm....revisionist historians' version of things - most of which arises because they make their living dining at the public feed trough of federal grant money. Gotta have a new theory every week!

Anyway. I highly recommend that old movie. It is dated, but very enjoyable. Stacy Keach stars. It is everything "Texas Rising" could have been if they had only allowed sober people to make it.

MONGOOSE wrote:You don't think that the volcanic area doesn't produce enough pressure to super pressurize the water? What do you think pushes the magma out? Do you think pressure might have caused Mt St Helens to explode.

Of course it can, but a "pool of water" would not be found inside an eruption. That would be steam. Superheated steam, I grant you, but steam non the less. More importantly, the show mentioned "a pool of water" that was 300 degrees. To my knowledge, that is not possible, unless that pool of water is under tremendous pressure.

Last winter I found that water in a standard throw-away half-liter plastic bottle almost won't freeze. I set it outside when the temperature dropped well below twenty and it would stay liquid.

It would freeze, but I've forgotten what I did to shock it into state transition. It was nowhere near as willing to turn solid as I would have thought. As I recall, I opened the lid and something started it freezing then.

I'll have to try that again this year.

treadlightly wrote:Last winter I found that water in a standard throw-away half-liter plastic bottle almost won't freeze. I set it outside when the temperature dropped well below twenty and it would stay liquid.

It would freeze, but I've forgotten what I did to shock it into state transition. It was nowhere near as willing to turn solid as I would have thought. As I recall, I opened the lid and something started it freezing then.

I'll have to try that again this year.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n9TLpfOxwEY

puma guy wrote:I was watching a History Channel show about Neanderthals. I didn't catch it all but they were showing some pools of water from a volcanic source and said the water temperature was 300 Degrees F. Like new math I guess that's the new physics.

Maybe they meant a nice balmy 300º Kelvin......which would be a comfortable 80.33º F.

The Annoyed Man wrote:

puma guy wrote:I was watching a History Channel show about Neanderthals. I didn't catch it all but they were showing some pools of water from a volcanic source and said the water temperature was 300 Degrees F. Like new math I guess that's the new physics.

Maybe they meant a nice balmy 300º Kelvin......which would be a comfortable 80.33º F.

That's probably it, TAM, they just forgot to mention which scale they were using.

I often quote the speed my vehicle will achieve in furlongs per fortnight.

jimlongley wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:

puma guy wrote:I was watching a History Channel show about Neanderthals. I didn't catch it all but they were showing some pools of water from a volcanic source and said the water temperature was 300 Degrees F. Like new math I guess that's the new physics.

Maybe they meant a nice balmy 300º Kelvin......which would be a comfortable 80.33º F.

That's probably it, TAM, they just forgot to mention which scale they were using.

I often quote the speed my vehicle will achieve in furlongs per fortnight.

Maybe the water is hotter where the pressure is greater and this pool is cooling, but still HOT before it changes to the vapor state and evaporates away.

The Annoyed Man wrote:

jimlongley wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:

puma guy wrote:I was watching a History Channel show about Neanderthals. I didn't catch it all but they were showing some pools of water from a volcanic source and said the water temperature was 300 Degrees F. Like new math I guess that's the new physics.

Maybe they meant a nice balmy 300º Kelvin......which would be a comfortable 80.33º F.

That's probably it, TAM, they just forgot to mention which scale they were using.

I often quote the speed my vehicle will achieve in furlongs per fortnight.

:lol:I considered that so I looked up the conversion to Kelvin. I remembered the number 460 but couldn't recall what the relationship was. It's part of the conversion formula. I laughed at myself that I even remembered 460, especially since I can't remember where I put my keys.

puma guy wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:

jimlongley wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:

puma guy wrote:I was watching a History Channel show about Neanderthals. I didn't catch it all but they were showing some pools of water from a volcanic source and said the water temperature was 300 Degrees F. Like new math I guess that's the new physics.

Maybe they meant a nice balmy 300º Kelvin......which would be a comfortable 80.33º F.

That's probably it, TAM, they just forgot to mention which scale they were using.

I often quote the speed my vehicle will achieve in furlongs per fortnight.

:lol:I considered that so I looked up the conversion to Kelvin. I remembered the number 460 but couldn't recall what the relationship was. It's part of the conversion formula. I laughed at myself that I even remembered 460, especially since I can't remember where I put my keys.

I thought it was 273? My keys are in my pocket. I think?