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When I was a kid back in the sixties gun racks in the back of pickups were quite popular. I have not seen a gun rack in a pickup in years now. Guess they were an invitation for thugs and thieves.

Back in the seventies or eighties I remember an incident involving a deer hunter on his way home when he noticed in his rear-view mirror an LEO being shot by a bad guy at the side of the road. He pulled over, got his deer rifle out, and dispatched the bad guy. Always good to be prepared.

dlh

Cjwglock19 wrote:I do not but have been strongly considering. My question is how do you store yours? Drive an F150, plenty of space under back seat I guess. Been considering a pistol grip 12 gauge or a Kel-Tec Sub 2000 ( not always an easy find ).

Be careful. I had an 08 F150. Someone broke into mine at the airport. Got home and reached to get the xds out. Wasn't there. Never knew they even got into it till then.

I posted a similar thread asking the same question, I'm still pondering a 12 gauge mounted interior of trunk lid.

Tonight I took one of my XD pistol cases and filled it with a trauma kit, tourniquet, Israeli bandage, 30 oz water, Mylar blanket, instant cold compress, 50 rnds 9mm, 50 rnds .45, then velvro mounted in the trunk.

Make sure you unload the rifle before passing through a school zone...don't want to go down for a felony violation of the GFSZA.

It takes 2 seconds to insert a mag and charge it.. No need to carry that loaded IMO

tlt wrote:It takes 2 seconds to insert a mag and charge it.. No need to carry that loaded IMO

What about a shotgun?

The Federal Gun Free Zone Act is a HUGE can of worms.

From my reading of that act the rifle/shotgun must be more than unloaded when you are going through a school zone--it must also be locked in a box of some kind or similar language. Simply having it unloaded in a gun case in the floorboard of the backseat may be insufficient compliance.

Secondly, apparently my privilege to possess a concealed handgun as I travel through a Texas school zone only applies to Texas school zones. If I visit my son in Phoenix, Arizona, and inadvertently go through an Arizona school zone then I could be in violaton of the act under the terms of the Federal GFZA, regardless of what Arizona State Law may say.

The penalties for violating that act are fairly serious.

What do others think?

dlh

dlh wrote:The Federal Gun Free Zone Act is a HUGE can of worms.

From my reading of that act the rifle/shotgun must be more than unloaded when you are going through a school zone--it must also be locked in a box of some kind or similar language. Simply having it unloaded in a gun case in the floorboard of the backseat may be insufficient compliance.

Secondly, apparently my privilege to possess a concealed handgun as I travel through a Texas school zone only applies to Texas school zones. If I visit my son in Phoenix, Arizona, and inadvertently go through an Arizona school zone then I could be in violaton of the act under the terms of the Federal GFZA, regardless of what Arizona State Law may say.

The penalties for violating that act are fairly serious.

What do others think?

dlh

I think locked in the trunk, unloaded, is OK...if you have a trunk.

That is why I have a 10.5" AR pistol. Not a shotgun or rifle it is a concealed handgun.

My employer, Uncle Sam, frowns upon firearms being carried onto the installation where I work. It's the one thing about my job I really don't like.

dlh wrote:The Federal Gun Free Zone Act is a HUGE can of worms

....

What do others think?

Short answer - Unconstitutional.

Longer answer... a tack-on charge for felons that the federals avoid applying to the law-abiding populace to avoid creating standing in court to have it struck down as unconstitutional. It's far more palatable to have it exist and look tough-on-crime on paper, and then in turn throw it against those ne'er do wells who juries want to convict anyways. It's unconstitutional all the way around in my opinion, but no lawyer wanting to generate precedent on our side of the gun issue is going to champion a crack dealer with an unlicensed Jennings in his pants; bad cases create bad case law. Throw it as a stand alone charge against a married father of two with no criminal record carrying a truck rifle, and courts are gonna have a much easier time laughing it off the books.

Much like legal marijuana in Colorado; the federals willingly avoid the issue against the common citizen so they don't force themselves to defend laws that more and more courts will unmake.

ScottDLS wrote:

tlt wrote:It takes 2 seconds to insert a mag and charge it.. No need to carry that loaded IMO

What about a shotgun?

Depends on the shotgun. There are shotguns that use detachable mags.

carlson1 wrote:That is why I have a 10.5" AR pistol. Not a shotgun or rifle it is a concealed handgun.

Good idea, now on my list of firearms I need to acquire.

AR and a few other goodies.