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Re: Seattle's new gun and ammo tax

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 10:56 pm
by C-dub
I wonder if there could be some sort of preemption at the state level to prevent this kind of thing. That is, of course, if it is not overturned by some higher court.

Re: Seattle's new gun and ammo tax

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 11:10 pm
by John Galt
Isn't liberalism great?

Re: Seattle's new gun and ammo tax

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 4:36 pm
by Bluegill
"buying good feelings with other peoples money......."

Re: Seattle's new gun and ammo tax

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:27 pm
by Soccerdad1995
I agree that this sets a terrible precedent.

That said, if it is truly only limited to the Seattle city limits, it won't be too harmful. Seattle is a fairly small city (geographically speaking). To put it is perspective, if you live downtown you are a 30 minute drive from 5-6 other suburbs, which are all separate cities. And most of the people who work in Seattle don't actually live in the city.

It's not like Houston, where the actual city limits take up a considerable amount of space.

Re: Seattle's new gun and ammo tax

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 12:06 am
by JP171
Soccerdad1995 wrote:I agree that this sets a terrible precedent.

That said, if it is truly only limited to the Seattle city limits, it won't be too harmful. Seattle is a fairly small city (geographically speaking). To put it is perspective, if you live downtown you are a 30 minute drive from 5-6 other suburbs, which are all separate cities. And most of the people who work in Seattle don't actually live in the city.

It's not like Houston, where the actual city limits take up a considerable amount of space.
yea like 3 counties Houston is in.

Re: Seattle's new gun and ammo tax

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 12:26 am
by SHogun62
Having been stationed in Washington until Dec. 2014, I can can tell you this much with 100% certainty. If the buyer/owner is a smart one, all they'll need to do is take a 40 minute drive south on I5 into Tacoma, and they can hit up the newly opened Bass Pro Shops for all their weapon system/ammo needs, stupid tax free.

Re: Seattle's new gun and ammo tax

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 6:45 pm
by SA-TX
Nuts wrote:Oregon and Washington are famous for using taxes to drive out businesses that they think don't fit in. That's one reason there economies suck so bad.
On what do you base this? Washington state, like Texas, has no income tax and Seattle's tech industry is well-known and very lucrative. Seattle is full of liberals but, like San Francisco, is thriving because the full consequences of their recent policies have not manifested themselves. Washington state laws also somewhat protect Seattle from itself (tax policy, shall-issue CPL, unlicensed open carry, etc.)

As for Oregon, it has no sales tax and is the #1 state in the union for % net in-migration (in from other states - out to other states). It's liberal Mecca, Portland, is apparently also doing pretty well. Similarly, Oregon state law isn't what you might think: shall-issue CC, unlicensed OC.

I'm no fan of the liberal policies that they are pursuing and they'll catch up with them eventually, but I'm not sure your characterization is accurate.

SA-TX

Re: Seattle's new gun and ammo tax

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:18 pm
by Nuts
I base it on living in Oregon and Washington for 40 years. Plus, watching whole industry's taxed out of existence including mine. That's why I moved to Texas.

On the sales tax in Oregon, you are correct that there is none. But, there is a income tax that is just short of armed robbery. My last job before I left I lived in Washington county (county income tax) worked in clackamas county(income taxes by county) and payed state income tax. Have you ever lived somewhere that as a single person with no deductions you ar taxed almost 50% of your income? You

Re: Seattle's new gun and ammo tax

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:52 pm
by Nuts
Almost forgot
It is a shall issue state after you get the county sheriff to sign Your form.

You can OC a firearm if your involved in fishing or hunting as long as it's not loaded unless your hunting in a pistol hunt and that's only in your hunting unit.

Re: Seattle's new gun and ammo tax

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:48 pm
by SA-TX
Nuts wrote:Almost forgot
It is a shall issue state after you get the county sheriff to sign Your form.

You can OC a firearm if your involved in fishing or hunting as long as it's not loaded unless your hunting in a pistol hunt and that's only in your hunting unit.
I know more about WA than OR. I work for one of the aforementioned tech companies. I think my first business trip there was in the fall of '94 so not nearly as long as you but 20+ years.

I'm not sure you are correct about OR only being OC related to hunting. I know for sure that's not true in WA; it is full unlicensed OC of handguns.

As for their economies, I mentioned that based on economic measures that I'm familiar with, both are doing quite well. I do agree that OR's income tax is high but 50% is federal, state, and local, right? That's still higher than I would expect. I'll wager a buck that the actual state rate is 12% or less.

SA-TX

Re: Seattle's new gun and ammo tax

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 12:31 am
by Unocat
I think one of the great things about our country is the Freedom of Movement. Cities and States that create conditions that arent favorable or aren't liked by someone are easily rectified by moving to somewhere in the country that has different practices, more akin to what that person would like to live with.

This is why states like NY, IL, MI, OH are losing population and congressional seats while states like TX and FL are gaining. The more the liberal social progressives restrict and tax their residents, the more they will leave and find places they can go.