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VMI77 wrote:

chandler583 wrote:Well, I for one did graduate with a STEM degree in Engineering from Texas A&M, I would like to think that a majority of the students that attend that university are above average in being aware of what's going on in the country around them, but I'm not so sure anymore.

I try to pay attention to world events and politicians to hold them accountable, I could careless what jersey shore or the Kardashians are doing. But, then again, I don't think Fireball whiskey is the best alcohol around either, so I may just be an exception to the rule.

Unless it has changed dramatically since my oldest was there about 10 years ago the majority are not informed or aware. As an engineer myself, even though I'm old, I think I can say with confidence that the people you most associated with were in an entirely different intellectual class than the majority of liberal arts students.

You need only look at a distribution of IQ by major to observe the well established intellectual differences between the sciences and the liberal arts....such as they are. Today's liberal arts are not your grandfather's liberal arts. That isn't to say higher IQ necessarily means better informed or less misinformed. My youngest went to law school with plenty of high IQ and misinformed students. Nor does lower IQ necessary mean uninformed or misinformed, though I think it safe to assume some correlation exists between IQ and ignorance.


http://www.randalolson.com/2014/06/25/a ... der-ratio/

Here's a list that omits gender:

http://www.bachelor-of-education.org/college-major-iq/

Lowest IQs by major:
- Social Work - 103
- Early Childhood - 104
- Student Counseling - 105
- Special - 106
- Home Economics - 106
- Elementary - 108
- Other Education - 109
- Education - 110
- Other Social Science - 110
- Communications - 111
- Business Administration & Management - 111
- Health & Medical Sciences - 111
- Curriculum & Instruction - 111
- Higher Education - 112
- Psychology - 113
- Business - 114
- Other Business - 114
- Sociology - 114
- Performance & Studio Arts - 114
- Social Sciences - 115
- Secondary Education - 116

Highest IQs by major:
- Biological Sciences - 121
- Earth, Atmosphere, & Mar. Science - 121
- Industrial Engineering - 123
- Civil Engineering - 124
- Computer & Information Science - 124
- Chemistry - 124
- Other Humanities & Art - 124
- Physical Sciences - 125
- Banking & Finance - 125
- Electrical Engineering - 126
- Engineering - 126
- Mechanical Engineering - 126
- Other Engineering - 128
- Chemical Engineering - 128
- Economics - 128
- Materials Engineering - 129
- Philosophy - 129
- Mathematical Sciences - 130
- Physics & Astronomy - 133

ScottDLS wrote:Wow, I have a degree in Physics and concentrated in Astrophysics and Astronomy.... I like that chart!!!

Abraham wrote:Leftist professors are Saul Alinsky acolytes...making certain students remain unschooled in American history and hateful toward Capitalism and the Constitution.

A four year degree from almost any university is laughable.

Those who earn degrees in science aren't exposed as much, but sadly, they're still exposed to some of this poison.

VMI77 wrote:

ScottDLS wrote:Wow, I have a degree in Physics and concentrated in Astrophysics and Astronomy.... I like that chart!!!

While I can't comment on the aptitude of the average graduate in those majors there is no doubt whatsoever that only the very brightest with the highest IQs are competitive in those fields.

OTOH, Richard P Feynman had a reported IQ of 124, so either the test didn't accurately reflect his IQ for whatever reason or his IQ not being Einsteinian didn't limit his achievements. And he is said to have done exceedingly well on his Princeton entrance exams.

Abraham wrote:I've read many of Richard P Feynman's books.

He was one of the "Coolest" guys in the world, irrespective of his genius. Bongo playing, adopted Brazilian lover of life.

I am saddened, I didn't get to know him...Carnival participate and lover of things others object to...

Liberty wrote:I find the charts interesting in the fact that an IQ of 100 is concidered median or average. According to the charts even the lowest rated group is at least average.

WildBill wrote:

VMI77 wrote:

ScottDLS wrote:Wow, I have a degree in Physics and concentrated in Astrophysics and Astronomy.... I like that chart!!!

While I can't comment on the aptitude of the average graduate in those majors there is no doubt whatsoever that only the very brightest with the highest IQs are competitive in those fields.

OTOH, Richard P Feynman had a reported IQ of 124, so either the test didn't accurately reflect his IQ for whatever reason or his IQ not being Einsteinian didn't limit his achievements. And he is said to have done exceedingly well on his Princeton entrance exams.

Have you ever heard of William Shockley, a brilliant physicist? His "competitiveness" and success in business was hampered by his personality.

Abraham wrote:I've read many of Richard P Feynman's books.

He was one of the "Coolest" guys in the world, irrespective of his genius. Bongo playing, adopted Brazilian lover of life.

I am saddened, I didn't get to know him...Carnival participate and lover of things others object to...

VMI77 wrote:

WildBill wrote:

VMI77 wrote:

ScottDLS wrote:Wow, I have a degree in Physics and concentrated in Astrophysics and Astronomy.... I like that chart!!!

While I can't comment on the aptitude of the average graduate in those majors there is no doubt whatsoever that only the very brightest with the highest IQs are competitive in those fields.

OTOH, Richard P Feynman had a reported IQ of 124, so either the test didn't accurately reflect his IQ for whatever reason or his IQ not being Einsteinian didn't limit his achievements. And he is said to have done exceedingly well on his Princeton entrance exams.

Have you ever heard of William Shockley, a brilliant physicist? His "competitiveness" and success in business was hampered by his personality.

Yes, I have, and I'm sure the success and competitiveness of many people with high IQs are hampered by their personality. I remember a line in a movie some years back to this effect: "Good at chess, bad at life." I think a case can be made that very high IQ correlates with personality deficits and psychological problems. Or to put it another way, I'd guess a disproportionate number of people with high IQs have coping and personality problems.