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bdr518 wrote:

G.A. Heath wrote:If your not voting for Trump (not voting at all, doing write in, voting for a third party candidate, or the Democratic Ticket) then you are effectively voting for Hillary and gun control.

I'm am sick and tired of these bull lines. This is no more than fear mongering. The fact of the matter is I just don't trust Trump. There is FAR to many examples of flip flopped positions, empty slogans, and pathological narcissism for me to think he's any better than Hillary. I think BOTH Trump and Hillary are going to be horrible presidents, but with the "Republican" tag on his name, there won't be another chance for a principled conservative from the GOP in the future. This "I don't care hold your nose and vote" mentality has done nothing for us in the past. This election I am going to vote FOR my principals or not vote at all, and if that means that it goes to the other person, will then our only hope from self immolation is an Article V convention. I am sick and tired of both sides ripping the Constitution that I took an oath to protect from ALL enemies foreign AND DOMESTIC. Neither one of these clowns give a rats you know what about the Constitution, so maybe its time for the states to remind the feds who is REALLY in charge. Thankfully we still have quite a few civil options at our disposal, but keep letting the take your rights away one by one and feeding you lie after lie, and eventually we will be at a place where no one wins. I don't need a hand held to "see things the right way". The right way has been spelled out clearly in our constitution. Call and write your governors and legislators. Support and article v convention of the states and put the power of government back where it was supposed to be in the first place. --rant complete--

TexasJohnBoy wrote:

bdr518 wrote:

LSUTiger wrote:Maybe Drumpf will prove to be a catalyst for a 3rd party in the future but it's all Drumpf/Hitlary at this point.

There won't be any way a third party will be viable unless we find a way to go "Jungle Primary" similar to how states like Louisiana are.

Write it down -- there will be no viable 3rd party for President any time soon.

G.A. Heath wrote:Charles said it much better than I in his podcast, check it out at https://www.texasfirearmscoalition.com/ ... p/podcasts (specifically episode #12).

To sum it up rather crudely: If your not voting for Trump (not voting at all, doing write in, voting for a third party candidate, or the Democratic Ticket) then you are effectively voting for Hillary and gun control. For the record the candidate I voted for didn't win, but I will hold my nose and pull the handle to keep Hillary from getting her 3rd term.

Beiruty wrote:

G.A. Heath wrote:Charles said it much better than I in his podcast, check it out at https://www.texasfirearmscoalition.com/ ... p/podcasts (specifically episode #12).

To sum it up rather crudely: If your not voting for Trump (not voting at all, doing write in, voting for a third party candidate, or the Democratic Ticket) then you are effectively voting for Hillary and gun control. For the record the candidate I voted for didn't win, but I will hold my nose and pull the handle to keep Hillary from getting her 3rd term.

Simply no other choice. I am 2ndA voter, Period

bdr518 wrote:

Solaris wrote:

RossA wrote:Whether you voted for him in the primary or not, this was a simple choice at this point.

Sadly many cannot conclude this.

I would be one of them. With how he has handled himself through the primary, and listening to his numerous flip flops, I can not see how this man could be good for the conservative movement. In fact his narcissism down right scares me.

gdanaher wrote:I am still in shock that after 7 years of belly aching about how bad Obama is, all the Republicans could come up with that they think is a nudge better is Trump. I realize that the folks here are largely one-issue voters, but there are potentially so many other concerns that he could foul up...the nation is in trouble.