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Re: I don't understand this
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 1:47 pm
by Soccerdad1995
This is the second half of the statement, "I don't expect the police to do my job, and I don't plan to do their job." Your job is to protect yourself and your family from immediate threats. It is the job of the police to apprehend criminals after crimes have been committed. If you really, really want to do that second job, then you are free to apply to the police academy.
If there is an immediate threat, then shoot to stop that threat.
If there is no immediate threat, then move to safety and be a good witness.
None of this involves firing warning shots, or chasing after suspects, or anything similar.
Re: I don't understand this
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:04 pm
by Flightmare
Soccerdad1995 wrote:This is the second half of the statement, "I don't expect the police to do my job, and I don't plan to do their job." Your job is to protect yourself and your family from immediate threats. It is the job of the police to apprehend criminals after crimes have been committed. If you really, really want to do that second job, then you are free to apply to the police academy.
If there is an immediate threat, then shoot to stop that threat.
If there is no immediate threat, then move to safety and be a good witness.
None of this involves firing warning shots, or chasing after suspects, or anything similar.
I do not think I could have summarized that better myself!
Re: I don't understand this
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 9:25 am
by RogueUSMC
ispray wrote:I think a lot of people would stop if they are running and hear a shot and if they do I don't think they would run again because they already know you will shoot..
I don't know about you but, if I am running, and I hear a gunshot...and it doesn't hit me, I am running faster...lol.
Re: I don't understand this
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 9:47 am
by der Teufel
RogueUSMC wrote:ispray wrote:I think a lot of people would stop if they are running and hear a shot and if they do I don't think they would run again because they already know you will shoot..
I don't know about you but, if I am running, and I hear a gunshot...and it doesn't hit me, I am running faster...lol.
Yeah, please don't stop because I'm liable to crash into you as I accelerate!
Re: I don't understand this
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 9:53 am
by Jusme
RogueUSMC wrote:ispray wrote:I think a lot of people would stop if they are running and hear a shot and if they do I don't think they would run again because they already know you will shoot..
I don't know about you but, if I am running, and I hear a gunshot...and it doesn't hit me, I am running faster...lol.
Not only faster, but in a serpentine motion to make it harder for the shooter to hit me. You can stop and wait to see if they shoot again, but, don't be surprised to see me pass you.

Re: I don't understand this
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 10:15 am
by pushpullpete
Warning shots are foolish, dangerous to innocent people and a waste of ammunition. As has already been stated, be the best witness you can.
Re: I don't understand this
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 10:36 am
by ScottDLS
First rack the slide on your semi-auto 'cause it's a bad idea to leave one in the pipe. Then fire a shot in the air and yell "Halt, or I'll shoot". Then shoot in the arm or leg or toe or somewhere 100% non lethal. Then you'll only have one more bullet left 'cause you don't want to over stress the springs in your clip. Then of the subject is still not complying hit him exactly between the eyes or in the center of the back of his head.
Reload another clip with 3 rounds, but don't rack the slide unless the perp tries to get up, then do it and say "Go ahead PUNK, make my day!".

Re: I don't understand this
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 10:42 am
by GeekwithaGun
ScottDLS wrote:First rack the slide on your semi-auto 'cause it's a bad idea to leave one in the pipe. Then fire a shot in the air and yell "Halt, or I'll shoot". Then shoot in the arm or leg or toe or somewhere 100% non lethal. Then you'll only have one more bullet left 'cause you don't want to over stress the springs in your clip. Then of the subject is still not complying hit him exactly between the eyes or in the center of the back of his head.
Reload another clip with 3 rounds, but don't rack the slide unless the perp tries to get up, then do it and say "Go ahead PUNK, make my day!".


Re: I don't understand this
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 10:42 am
by Papa_Tiger
ScottDLS wrote:First rack the slide on your semi-auto 'cause it's a bad idea to leave one in the pipe. Then fire a shot in the air and yell "Halt, or I'll shoot". Then shoot in the arm or leg or toe or somewhere 100% non lethal. Then you'll only have one more bullet left 'cause you don't want to over stress the springs in your clip. Then of the subject is still not complying hit him exactly between the eyes or in the center of the back of his head.
Reload another clip with 3 rounds, but don't rack the slide unless the perp tries to get up, then do it and say "Go ahead PUNK, make my day!".


That made MY day!
Re: I don't understand this
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:19 pm
by allisji
ScottDLS wrote:First rack the slide on your semi-auto 'cause it's a bad idea to leave one in the pipe. Then fire a shot in the air and yell "Halt, or I'll shoot". Then shoot in the arm or leg or toe or somewhere 100% non lethal. Then you'll only have one more bullet left 'cause you don't want to over stress the springs in your clip. Then of the subject is still not complying hit him exactly between the eyes or in the center of the back of his head.
Reload another clip with 3 rounds, but don't rack the slide unless the perp tries to get up, then do it and say "Go ahead PUNK, make my day!".

If you are still around when the cops show up are you required to show them both your DL and your Batman license?
Re: I don't understand this
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:49 pm
by bblhd672
It happened in Chicago so you have to assume a great deal of stupidity on the part of everyone involved - from the mayor down to all the dummies involved.
Re: I don't understand this
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 1:18 pm
by Pawpaw
I, for one, am all for warning shots... delivered center mass.
Each one says, "Stop or I'll do it again!"
Re: I don't understand this
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 1:53 pm
by mayor
Jusme wrote:Not only faster, but in a serpentine motion to make it harder for the shooter to hit me. You can stop and wait to see if they shoot again, but, don't be surprised to see me pass you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rmprF6e0RA 
Re: I don't understand this
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 2:09 pm
by Jusme
mayor wrote:Jusme wrote:Not only faster, but in a serpentine motion to make it harder for the shooter to hit me. You can stop and wait to see if they shoot again, but, don't be surprised to see me pass you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rmprF6e0RA 
This is the one I always think of when I hear the word serpentine. (there is some PG 13 language)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2_w-QCWpS0
Re: I don't understand this
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 1:25 pm
by TreyHouston
WOW, a blind guy could shoot better than those two nuckle heads!!
