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WTR wrote: I understand why Beiruty would be reluctant to support a candidate who has spewed such vitriol toward all people of his religion. However, I think the ways Trump can help Beiruty are as follows. He will support our 2A rights, he will nominate qualified folks to the SCOTUS,and he will hopefully fill his cabinet with intelligent and qualified people. I think Trump has done more to hurt himself than the criminal Hillary could ever do. I'm going to hold my nose but I will vote for Trump.

I hope you are right about Trump's picks for SCOTUS and cabinet but given how he goes through campaign staff and policy I'm getting worried. We darn well better have a Republican Senate, just in case. Months ago on this forum I suggested we dump Trump and focus on keeping Congress Republican. Make sense?

dale blanker wrote:

WTR wrote: I understand why Beiruty would be reluctant to support a candidate who has spewed such vitriol toward all people of his religion. However, I think the ways Trump can help Beiruty are as follows. He will support our 2A rights, he will nominate qualified folks to the SCOTUS,and he will hopefully fill his cabinet with intelligent and qualified people. I think Trump has done more to hurt himself than the criminal Hillary could ever do. I'm going to hold my nose but I will vote for Trump.

I hope you are right about Trump's picks for SCOTUS and cabinet but given how he goes through campaign staff and policy I'm getting worried. We darn well better have a Republican Senate, just in case. Months ago on this forum I suggested we dump Trump and focus on keeping Congress Republican. Make sense?

and give Hillary the presidency??? Doesn't make sense in my world..

You may not secure Trump win but at any cost we need to keep lock on House and Senate.

Beiruty wrote:You may not secure Trump win but at any cost we need to keep lock on House and Senate.

The same Republican house and Senate that has given in to everything Obama has put in front of them? The same congress that didn't end Obama Care, or the Iran treaty? The same Congress that lowered military funding...again?

I get not liking Trump, even despising him, but a vote against Trump IS a vote for Hillary and more of the same Obama administration abuses of power.

Controlling Congress but not POTUS is like grabbing a snake by the tail, it may not get away, but you're still going to get bit.

TexasTornado wrote:

Beiruty wrote:You may not secure Trump win but at any cost we need to keep lock on House and Senate.

The same Republican house and Senate that has given in to everything Obama has put in front of them? The same congress that didn't end Obama Care, or the Iran treaty? The same Congress that lowered military funding...again?

I get not liking Trump, even despising him, but a vote against Trump IS a vote for Hillary and more of the same Obama administration abuses of power.

Controlling Congress but not POTUS is like grabbing a snake by the tail, it may not get away, but you're still going to get bit.

Hey, wait, what? Didn't McConnell put a hold on Senate approval for Obama's pick to SCOTUS? Doesn't the Senate have to approve the SCOTUS (and cabinet) nominee any more?

Of course doing the other things you mention require bigger Republican majorities in Congress.

Republican loss of POTUS and Senate control would be much worse than Hillary with a Democrat Senate, don't ya' think???

Hillary is the pits but Trump is beyond words. I'm amazed that anyone still takes Trump seriously.

dale blanker wrote:

TexasTornado wrote:

Beiruty wrote:You may not secure Trump win but at any cost we need to keep lock on House and Senate.

The same Republican house and Senate that has given in to everything Obama has put in front of them? The same congress that didn't end Obama Care, or the Iran treaty? The same Congress that lowered military funding...again?

I get not liking Trump, even despising him, but a vote against Trump IS a vote for Hillary and more of the same Obama administration abuses of power.

Controlling Congress but not POTUS is like grabbing a snake by the tail, it may not get away, but you're still going to get bit.

Hey, wait, what? Didn't McConnell put a hold on Senate approval for Obama's pick to SCOTUS? Doesn't the Senate have to approve the SCOTUS (and cabinet) nominee any more?

Of course doing the other things you mention require bigger Republican majorities in Congress.

Republican loss of POTUS and Senate control would be much worse than Hillary with a Democrat Senate, don't ya' think???

Hillary is the pits but Trump is beyond words. I'm amazed that anyone still takes Trump seriously.

They both suck, no doubt. But when you can't support the candidate, you support the platform.....and the one who doesn't have the blood of American heroes on his/her hands.

Really it's a no brainer.

Mr. Blanker,

Stop trolling on with anti-Trump malarkey.

parabelum wrote:Mr. Blanker,

Stop trolling on with anti-Trump malarkey.

parabelum wrote:Mr. Blanker,

Stop trolling on with anti-Trump malarkey.

I thought I was being pro-Republican and pro-2A and being realistic. I haven't suggested not voting for Trump - of course we have to do that - but let's not look like we really support him. I think congressional candidates would have a better chance of success in November if they didn't appear to endorse Trump. Clear?

dale blanker wrote:

parabelum wrote:Mr. Blanker,

Stop trolling on with anti-Trump malarkey.

I thought I was being pro-Republican and pro-2A and being realistic. I haven't suggested not voting for Trump - of course we have to do that - but let's not look like we really support him. I think congressional candidates would have a better chance of success in November if they didn't appear to endorse Trump. Clear?

Let's vote for him but not really support him......that sounds a lot like eating the cookie but not counting the calories.

TexasTornado wrote:

dale blanker wrote:

parabelum wrote:Mr. Blanker,

Stop trolling on with anti-Trump malarkey.

I thought I was being pro-Republican and pro-2A and being realistic. I haven't suggested not voting for Trump - of course we have to do that - but let's not look like we really support him. I think congressional candidates would have a better chance of success in November if they didn't appear to endorse Trump. Clear?

Let's vote for him but not really support him......that sounds a lot like eating the cookie but not counting the calories.

Or counting the calories but not keeping them, i.e. exercising before they turn into fat?

Or like legally and responsibly carrying a loaded gun but not waving it around?

dale blanker wrote: Hillary is the pits but Trump is beyond words. I'm amazed that anyone still takes Trump seriously.

You don't think Hillary is beyond words and you take her seriously?

Why do you not ever apply your "reasoning" to your positions? How about voting how you are going to vote and stop kicking the ant pile with the anti Trump rhetoric?

dale blanker wrote: Republican loss of POTUS and Senate control would be much worse than Hillary with a Democrat Senate, don't ya' think???

Actually they are the same thing.

bblhd672 wrote:

dale blanker wrote: Republican loss of POTUS and Senate control would be much worse than Hillary with a Democrat Senate, don't ya' think???

Actually they are the same thing.

Whoops, my bad. Thanks.

What I meant to say is.. without a Republican Senate things could really get nasty with Hillary as president.
I'm afraid Trump is taking the Republican Party down in flames. I hope I'm wrong.

dale blanker wrote:

bblhd672 wrote:

dale blanker wrote: Republican loss of POTUS and Senate control would be much worse than Hillary with a Democrat Senate, don't ya' think???

Actually they are the same thing.

Whoops, my bad. Thanks.

What I meant to say is.. without a Republican Senate things could really get nasty with Hillary as president.
I'm afraid Trump is taking the Republican Party down in flames. I hope I'm wrong.

It could be argued that the Republican Party is taking themselves down in flames by ignoring the will of the people who elected them based upon their campaign promises.