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Re: Tonight's debate

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:16 am
by Beiruty
parabelum wrote:
Beiruty wrote:In latest wikileak if the quotes are accurate. Hillary attacked both Muslims and Black people, so I had to post on my facebook:

http://freedomdaily.com/wikileaks-octob ... s-muslims/


She is an idiot and bigoted too. Muslims ruled the world for 1,000 years.Just to tell Hillary, Trump, and all bigoted Anti-Muslims regardless of their political colors. The best of the best of Muslims have immigrated to US because they are the most successful, the most highly educated the most hard workers folks around. Add to that we are family people first and foremost. Any questions?
Yes, one.


Why are you baiting in conversation about religion, which violates forum rules?
It is about US Muslims, not Islam.

Re: Tonight's debate

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:26 am
by Soccerdad1995
I think it is important for Trump to talk about the felonies committed by Hillary. There are a lot of independent voters who do not understand what happened here. Just as one example, I think that there are a lot of independents who honestly do not know that she destroyed 33,000 e-mails after she had received a subpoena. Any educated adult should know that is a big no--no. As in you are pretty much guaranteed jail time. But the Democratic propaganda machine (formerly known as the media) has done a very effective job of covering up the facts here.

Re: Tonight's debate

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:27 am
by mojo84
I didn't watch the debate but this had to be Trump's highest point. It appeared to be a body blow that rocked Hillary a bit. Hope it rings in people's minds.

Re: Tonight's debate

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:32 am
by mojo84
Apparently, Wall St. thinks Hillary won. What does it say the stock market is up when the Wall Streeters think Hillary won? Anyone still think Hillary is for the middle class and main street business folks?

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-s ... SKCN12A190
Wall Street rose on Monday morning amid gains across most sectors, driven by oil prices, and as Democrat Hillary Clinton was widely seen as the winner of the second presidential debate.

A Clinton presidency would be more positive for the markets because her positions are more well known than those of her Republican rival Donald Trump, according to a Reuters poll.

Re: Tonight's debate

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:33 am
by Soccerdad1995
Beiruty wrote:
parabelum wrote:
Beiruty wrote:In latest wikileak if the quotes are accurate. Hillary attacked both Muslims and Black people, so I had to post on my facebook:

http://freedomdaily.com/wikileaks-octob ... s-muslims/


She is an idiot and bigoted too. Muslims ruled the world for 1,000 years.Just to tell Hillary, Trump, and all bigoted Anti-Muslims regardless of their political colors. The best of the best of Muslims have immigrated to US because they are the most successful, the most highly educated the most hard workers folks around. Add to that we are family people first and foremost. Any questions?
Yes, one.


Why are you baiting in conversation about religion, which violates forum rules?
It is about US Muslims, not Islam.
I think the problem is that there is a very slippery slope here toward a conversation about religion and not just about people who happen to believe in a particular religion. For example, if I was to ask you why some Muslims are so offended, to the point of violence, when someone draws a caricature of the prophet Mohammed, your response might necessarily start to lead to a discussion of the basic principles underlying Islam.

For the record, I am very interested in all of the major religions of this world, because I am interested in the people and cultures around me. I would love to have coffee and discuss Islam in detail. I just don't know that this is the best forum for that discussion.

Re: Tonight's debate

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:40 am
by bblhd672
mojo84 wrote:Apparently, Wall St. thinks Hillary won. What does it say the stock market is up when the Wall Streeters think Hillary won? Anyone still think Hillary is for the middle class and main street business folks?

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-s ... SKCN12A190
Wall Street rose on Monday morning amid gains across most sectors, driven by oil prices, and as Democrat Hillary Clinton was widely seen as the winner of the second presidential debate.

A Clinton presidency would be more positive for the markets because her positions are more well known than those of her Republican rival Donald Trump, according to a Reuters poll.
Wall Street is positive because the candidate they've paid for appears to be winning. It's telling that Wall Street thinks Clinton's socialist positions are better than capitalist Trump's. They must have been assured that there would be no new policies that could negatively impact their money grubbing.

Re: Tonight's debate

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:40 am
by mojo84
This thread is about the debate and it's effects on voter's opinions. It is not about Muslims or Islam. There has been enough damage done already with all of the infighting among ourselves.

Infighting over differences rather than allying based upon commonality is going to ensure we end up with Hillary as president and dictator. Let's talk about winning the election and then we can talk about how to try to control and manage Trump.

Re: Tonight's debate

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:46 am
by steveincowtown
350 million people in our country and these 2 are the best we could come up with.


Ugh.

Re: Tonight's debate

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:47 am
by bblhd672
Beiruty wrote:In latest wikileak if the quotes are accurate. Hillary attacked both Muslims and Black people, so I had to post on my facebook:

http://freedomdaily.com/wikileaks-octob ... s-muslims/
Hillary Clinton puts her feelings about Muslims and Blacks in writing, it's released publicly, the media yawns/doesn't care and Muslims and Blacks overwhelmingly vote for Clinton.

Re: Tonight's debate

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:49 am
by bblhd672
steveincowtown wrote:350 million people in our country and these 2 are the best we could come up with.


Ugh.
Nope, the two that the string pullers, financiers and media wanted to perpetrate upon us.

Re: Tonight's debate

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:59 am
by Beiruty
bblhd672 wrote:
Beiruty wrote:In latest wikileak if the quotes are accurate. Hillary attacked both Muslims and Black people, so I had to post on my facebook:

http://freedomdaily.com/wikileaks-octob ... s-muslims/
Hillary Clinton puts her feelings about Muslims and Blacks in writing, it's released publicly, the media yawns/doesn't care and Muslims and Blacks overwhelmingly vote for Clinton.
Trump is not helping. The only way the GOP can survive is to be inclusive to all US Citizens.

Re: Tonight's debate

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:04 am
by jb2012
I'm just hoping that Mr. Ken Bone Steps up as THE third party presidential candidate!

Re: Tonight's debate

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:04 am
by Liberty
bblhd672 wrote:
Wall Street is positive because the candidate they've paid for appears to be winning. It's telling that Wall Street thinks Clinton's socialist positions are better than capitalist Trump's. They must have been assured that there would be no new policies that could negatively impact their money grubbing.
Most of Wall Street is more concerned about banking and investment regulations than they are about Conservatism vs Socialism. Hillary has personally received millions from speeches to the Wall Street community.

Re: Tonight's debate

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:16 am
by Beiruty
bblhd672 wrote:
Beiruty wrote:In latest wikileak if the quotes are accurate. Hillary attacked both Muslims and Black people, so I had to post on my facebook:

http://freedomdaily.com/wikileaks-octob ... s-muslims/
Hillary Clinton puts her feelings about Muslims and Blacks in writing, it's released publicly, the media yawns/doesn't care and Muslims and Blacks overwhelmingly vote for Clinton.
I have been warned that this article is a hoax. Not sure if it is true or not, so disclaimer is warranted to preserve credibility.

Re: Tonight's debate

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 11:02 am
by der Teufel
bblhd672 wrote:
steveincowtown wrote:350 million people in our country and these 2 are the best we could come up with.


Ugh.
Nope, the two that the string pullers, financiers and media wanted to perpetrate upon us.

Actually, my opinion is that the voters in the Republican primaries were angry about how things are going, and they let their anger overrule their common sense. Trump is a poor candidate for president (again this is my opinion, but I think it's an easy opinion to defend). If we had almost ANY of the other initial 16 Republican candidates they'd probably be mopping the floor with Hillary. But anger ruled the primaries, and we now have to choose between the pathological liar and a scary clown. I'll vote against Hillary, but that doesn't mean I'm happy with the choices.

Just my 2¢ — YMMV IANAL MTFBWY