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It ain't gonna happen, just the Trumpeters trying to scare us. If It comes anywhere close in Texas , the rest of the country will have gone so hard over to Hillary The Texas Electoral College vote isn't gonna matter.

Progs are constantly touting demographic shifts, and they would be correct on this. Texas has changed drastically, it is eroding from within, largely due to prog Trojan horse, illegal immigrants.

Then you add to equation that conservatives tend to be a whole lot more principled, to a point where so many would not vote at all rather then to vote for what they see as flawed candidate, yea, it's going to be close. Very close.

Do you mean without massive voter fraud?

philip964 wrote:Several times in my life, I have thought new country time.

Move to a different part of the world, or with my friends start a new country in a different part of the world.

I've thought about how would you start a new country. Buy an island then pay off the country that it's part of to give you independence.

You could probably live in Antarctica for quite a while before anyone even noticed. Dunno how well it'd work out if you tried formally declare yourself a country, though, since there's a treaty preventing any country from claiming it.

philip964 wrote:Several times in my life, I have thought new country time.

Move to a different part of the world, or with my friends start a new country in a different part of the world.

I've thought about how would you start a new country. Buy an island then pay off the country that it's part of to give you independence.

Maybe there is another country that has as many gun rights as America, but I don't know of any.

Liberty wrote:

philip964 wrote:Several times in my life, I have thought new country time.

Move to a different part of the world, or with my friends start a new country in a different part of the world.

I've thought about how would you start a new country. Buy an island then pay off the country that it's part of to give you independence.

Maybe there is another country that has as many gun rights as America, but I don't know of any.

I think there's a small island nation that comes pretty close. Can't remember what it's called, though.

If you can get enough $$ to buy your own island, I'd imagine you could have whatever you want.

Dave2 wrote:

Liberty wrote:

philip964 wrote:Several times in my life, I have thought new country time.

Move to a different part of the world, or with my friends start a new country in a different part of the world.

I've thought about how would you start a new country. Buy an island then pay off the country that it's part of to give you independence.

Maybe there is another country that has as many gun rights as America, but I don't know of any.

I think there's a small island nation that comes pretty close. Can't remember what it's called, though.

If you can get enough $$ to buy your own island, I'd imagine you could have whatever you want.

Look at the Nestmann Report https://www.nestmann.com/ they can show you how to get a 2nd passport legally and bug out to the islands....presuming your really rich!

parabelum wrote:Progs are constantly touting demographic shifts, and they would be correct on this. Texas has changed drastically, it is eroding from within, largely due to prog Trojan horse, illegal immigrants.

Then you add to equation that conservatives tend to be a whole lot more principled, to a point where so many would not vote at all rather then to vote for what they see as flawed candidate, yea, it's going to be close. Very close.

No doubt the illegal immigration issue has a lot to do with it but I think far more so are all the out-of-staters moving in and bringing their liberal nonsense with them. We're not as conservative as we like to think we are, and if you don't believe me then look no further than at how hard we have to fight for gun bills in the Legislature. With near 2/3 GOP majorities in both houses for two decades, most of these things should be no-brainers. Every major city government except maybe Ft. Worth is almost completely dominated by liberals, and Ft. Worth may well be too for all I know.

If Hillary wins Texas, I can't even fathom the consequences. It's nearly impossible to elect a Republican president now. If we turn red, it literally cannot happen.

A partial quote from parabellum that opens up a real problem we have

"You can have just a green card, be a non citizen, have texas dl, and vote. It's illegal of course, but do you think someone is checking?"
As I see it being out of L E for 40 years
The major problem " IS PEOPLE NOT DOING THEIR JOB"

Look at Border patrol the honchos wont let the men women in the field do the Job.
New example FBI and the fiasco of the Hillary investigatio
The IRS in giving them the job of not allowing groups to be Non Profit ORGS.

REAGEN WAS RIGHT TRICKLE DOWN WORKS ESPECIALLY IN GOVT.

The corruption in govt is overwhelming

and it is every where congress, Executive, Judicial; From the topp all the way down to dogcatcher .

That's what it looked like in 2012. We might not go Blue in 2016, but the demographics of those blue counties will dwarf those of the red eventually.

parabelum wrote:Sadly, she can.

That is precisely why we have got to get as many people as possible to vote Trump/Pence.

Texas has seen an enormous influx of progs moving in from all over, and they are bringing their liberal votes with them.

In addition, border cities / counties are under assault from illegals.

There are a lot of people moving in, I am one of them. I know many in my area that aren't native Texans too. We're not voting for her. So for every loud mouth you see there are silent voters standing by. I don't like Trump, so you won't be me boasting his support. Doesn't mean I'm voting for Clinton. Before you tell me to go back to where I came from, I'll just say my ancestors were here before this was even Texas. We built San Antonio for the Spanish.

I believe CNN stands for Clinton News Network.

striker55 wrote:I believe CNN stands for Clinton News Network.

I've always thought Communist News Network...

chamberc wrote:

striker55 wrote:I believe CNN stands for Clinton News Network.

I've always thought Communist News Network...

Same thing..

chamberc wrote:

That's what it looked like in 2012. We might not go Blue in 2016, but the demographics of those blue counties will dwarf those of the red eventually.

Hopefully, after living in Texas for a while, good sense will start to wear off on them.

If you look at a county-by-county map of the entire US, it looks pretty much the same - 80% of the country is red, with the blue almost exclusively concentrated in major urban areas. Wonder why that is?