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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:01 am
by Xander
govnor wrote: Apparently, the vice squad goes in and checks the payroll for employees and then puts warrants out on them for sex crimes.
I find it extremely hard to believe that any judge would issue an arrest warrant for some generic "sex crime" where the only PC (if you could even call it that, in the proposed scenario) is the suspect's current employment.
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:28 am
by NcongruNt
nitrogen wrote:For some reason, there seems to be a ton of child rapists around here.
That's just lovely.
Well, statutory rape fits in that category. A 18 year-old guy and a 16-year old girl having sex and then the parents of the younger girl getting wind of it and pressing charges pins a sex offender conviction on that 18-year old. I'm not saying that's most of it, but my guess would be that it's at least a somewhat statistically significant portion.
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:08 am
by KD5NRH
NcongruNt wrote:Well, statutory rape fits in that category. A 18 year-old guy and a 16-year old girl having sex and then the parents of the younger girl getting wind of it and pressing charges pins a sex offender conviction on that 18-year old. I'm not saying that's most of it, but my guess would be that it's at least a somewhat statistically significant portion.
The one I'm still trying to figure is the guy who, if DOB and disposition date are correct was 11 at the time...I'm all in favor of 15-16yr olds being tried as adults for serious crimes, but how many 11yr olds really have the psychological capacity to be branded for life?
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:50 am
by seamusTX
govnor wrote: I doubt they're prowling around their own neighborhood though.
It's correct that most sex offenders prey on children in their own homes or families, but some go after unrelated victims. The cops arrested a guy who was pulling the "lost puppy" scam at a playground less than a mile from me, and he was a registered sex offender.
- Jim
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:19 am
by Venus Pax
govnor wrote:I doubt they're prowling around their own neighborhood though. If you look at most of their pictures online you could probably stomp them like a gnat. They are usually wusses, the people who do that type of thing. Ugly too.
Look a few more up on that family watchdog site. They don't always look how you think they'd look. Yeah, some are nasty. We actually recognized one from our former church, and he's a nice guy to talk to and wouldn't have otherwise set off my freak radar.
Several of the men on that website look like professionals, and appear very clean.
Remember that certain types of sex offenders (typically the most violent) are the most brazen. Anger rapists will violently grab women out of parking lots during daylight hours. Several years ago, a little five-year-old named Samantha Runnion was snatched from her front yard while she was playing with a friend. The guy grabbed her and drove off before her friend could get the grandmother out of the house to get a look at the car. Her body was found on a road, and she had suffered some terrible things before she died.
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:40 am
by stevie_d_64
Eye opening experience, isn't this folks...
I searched for one in particular, a former talk radio host here in Houston, and found out he's not on the list...
He may still be on the official list at the State website though...
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:42 am
by wjmphoto
NcongruNt wrote:nitrogen wrote:For some reason, there seems to be a ton of child rapists around here.
That's just lovely.
Well, statutory rape fits in that category. A 18 year-old guy and a 16-year old girl having sex and then the parents of the younger girl getting wind of it and pressing charges pins a sex offender conviction on that 18-year old. I'm not saying that's most of it, but my guess would be that it's at least a somewhat statistically significant portion.
Guess again. In your scenario, the fact that the guy is not more than 3 years older than the girl and that force or threat was not used IS a defense against prosecution. If the guy was already a registered sex offender, then this defense would not apply.
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:57 am
by govnor
Xander wrote:govnor wrote: Apparently, the vice squad goes in and checks the payroll for employees and then puts warrants out on them for sex crimes.
I find it extremely hard to believe that any judge would issue an arrest warrant for some generic "sex crime" where the only PC (if you could even call it that, in the proposed scenario) is the suspect's current employment.
Well, I'm not sure what the exact charge was, but it could have caused him to be a sex offender...I do remember that much. He had to fight it. The vice also goes into strip clubs around here and if the girl touches them in any way, I mean even on the shoulder or something, while she's dancing...they put a warrant out for her arrest and she doesn't know it until she gets pulled over the next time.
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:19 am
by jimlongley
Gee, I only got 28 in my zip code, and none in my immediate neighborhood, talk about a target poor environment.
Good for Vice!
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:19 am
by tfrazier
govnor wrote:The vice also goes into strip clubs around here and if the girl touches them in any way, I mean even on the shoulder or something, while she's dancing...they put a warrant out for her arrest and she doesn't know it until she gets pulled over the next time.
I say more power to 'em! Strip clubs ought to be shut down and made illegal in the entire country. Same goes for the adult bookstores. Nothing good comes from any of them...no moral or social redeeming value whatsoever.
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:41 am
by para driver
Xander wrote:Hmm...Apparently I live in a law abiding neighborhood. Only six in my zip code, and none within a couple of miles. Maybe y'all should move to Plano.
-Xander
Here is the Texas website to search by name:
https://records.txdps.state.tx.us/DPS_W ... index.aspx
I also live in Plano, but I think those numbers are too low.. mostly because some folks are wealthy enough to afford good lawyers. It happens every day, all you have to do is watch 'To catch a preditor' or whatever they call it on NBC. They get 50-100 guys caught up in these stings, don't forget the one they had in Murphy last year?
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:49 am
by seamusTX
Some towns have low numbers of registered sex offenders because they forbid them from living in a large radius around schools, parks, etc. Some small towns in Galveston County have made it impossible for a sex offender to live there legally.
- Jim
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:06 am
by wjmphoto
para driver wrote:Xander wrote:Hmm...Apparently I live in a law abiding neighborhood. Only six in my zip code, and none within a couple of miles. Maybe y'all should move to Plano.
-Xander
Here is the Texas website to search by name:
https://records.txdps.state.tx.us/DPS_W ... index.aspx
I also live in Plano, but I think those numbers are too low.. mostly because some folks are wealthy enough to afford good lawyers. It happens every day, all you have to do is watch 'To catch a preditor' or whatever they call it on NBC. They get 50-100 guys caught up in these stings, don't forget the one they had in Murphy last year?
The numbers are always too low because less than 10% of child molestations are reported. Unfortunately, people have this warped idea that you don't report these things in order to "protect the family". what the heck????? If you child is not a part of that family worth protecting, then who exactly are you protecting other than the perpetrator.
The honest truth is that you can't trust your kids with your family or your friends unless you are a telepath and can be sure that they are not a child molester. The average molester commits around 150 acts BEFORE getting caught. That's a lot of kids victimized that never go reported.
I know of several people who were molested or raped as children while in their family’s home and their parents and others were on the premises. Most of the scumbags who are child molesters have plenty of practice and start at a very early age so they know how to do it quietly and what to say to keep your kids quiet and not tell.
If you want to protect your kids, you need to be the one to take responsibility for their protection. That means that you can trust very few people with your kids - period. Even when leaving your kids with people that you trust, you can’t be sure that the people they have over while your kids are there are trustworthy. It also means that you have to be open with your kids about sex and about the things that bad people can and will do to them. You have to be adult enough to discuss these things and let your kids know that they can tell you anything. Most important is to explain to them that if something like this does happen to them that it is not their fault and they have nothing to be ashamed of. Explain that these types of people make threats toward the victim’s family in order to keep the victim quiet but that they really do this to stop from being found out and put in jail – the scumbag is the one who is actually afraid of the consequences of his actions. The only way to ensure that your kids tell you if something happens is to be open with them in the first place. If you act as though there are things that should not be talked about, then I guarantee you that when those things happen they won't talk to you and tell you!!!
Re: Good for Vice!
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:07 pm
by KBCraig
tfrazier wrote:I say more power to 'em! Strip clubs ought to be shut down and made illegal in the entire country. Same goes for the adult bookstores. Nothing good comes from any of them...no moral or social redeeming value whatsoever.
Do you believe everything should be illegal that doesn't have moral or socially redeeming value?
Remember, folks... there are many ways to land on the "registered sex offender" list these days. I've read more than one case of someone branded a "sex offender" for "indecent exposure" when trying to take a leak behind a dumpster, and being spotlighted by a patrol car.
And even when a charge wouldn't be a "sex offender" charge in Texas, once they hit that list in their home state, they still have to maintain registration if they move to Texas.
Re: Good for Vice!
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:22 pm
by seamusTX
KBCraig wrote:Remember, folks... there are many ways to land on the "registered sex offender" list these days.
Many are the result of ugly divorces. I read about one woman who was charged because she got out of the shower naked in front of her children. They might beat the rap if they can afford a good lawyer, but they often can't.
In some states, all sex between minors is a crime unless they are married. It's even possible to marry a young girl in some states and be considered a sex offender in others.
- Jim