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Fienstien just filed a bill to ban bump stocks.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 731611001/

The bill would ban the sale, transfer, importation, manufacture or possession of bump stocks, trigger cranks and similar accessories that accelerate a semi-automatic rifle’s rate of fire. Feinstein said the "short and plain spoken language" of the bill will let everyone know what is banned, "no matter how fancy the device is."

I'm not a great proponent of these things. To me they are more or less toys designed to help you waste a lot of ammo. The only time they might come in handy is when 30 wild hogs are in front of you, which happens about twice a month on my place. Maybe fewer of the swine would get away.

Lynyrd wrote:I'm not a great proponent of these things. To me they are more or less toys designed to help you waste a lot of ammo. The only time they might come in handy is when 30 wild hogs are in front of you, which happens about twice a month on my place. Maybe fewer of the swine would get away.

*pictures Lynyrd screaming "Say hello to my little friend!!!" at the mass of hogs

What is more alarming is other forums - like AR15.com - where their gun guy members are already conceding to losing SureFire bump stocks and AR-platform rifles ...

montgomery wrote:What is more alarming is other forums - like AR15.com - where their gun guy members are already conceding to losing SureFire bump stocks and AR-platform rifles ...

Where are they talking about losing AR rifles?

From the Article:

"...and I believe that once the investigation is complete and we learn all aspects of what contributed to this event, then we should have a hearing and look into it."

Are investigations like this ever completed?

Lynyrd wrote:Fienstien just filed a bill to ban bump stocks.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 731611001/

The bill would ban the sale, transfer, importation, manufacture or possession of bump stocks, trigger cranks and similar accessories that accelerate a semi-automatic rifle’s rate of fire. Feinstein said the "short and plain spoken language" of the bill will let everyone know what is banned, "no matter how fancy the device is."

I'm not a great proponent of these things. To me they are more or less toys designed to help you waste a lot of ammo. The only time they might come in handy is when 30 wild hogs are in front of you, which happens about twice a month on my place. Maybe fewer of the swine would get away.

Next up rubber bands and fast trigger fingers.

The GOP will save us.
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politic ... s-shooting

Texas Sen. John Cornyn, the No. 2 Republican leader, wants the Senate Judiciary Committee to hold a hearing on the massacre, with special focus on the firearm attachment, he said during a call with Texas reporters Wednesday.

And Rep. Bill Flores of Bryan, a conservative and gun owner, wants Congress to ban the product outright, according to The Hill.

One thing is for sure, everybody knows what a bump stock is now.

Captain Matt wrote:The GOP will save us.
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politic ... s-shooting

Texas Sen. John Cornyn, the No. 2 Republican leader, wants the Senate Judiciary Committee to hold a hearing on the massacre, with special focus on the firearm attachment, he said during a call with Texas reporters Wednesday.

And Rep. Bill Flores of Bryan, a conservative and gun owner, wants Congress to ban the product outright, according to The Hill.

The GOP smells an easy sacrificial lamb to assuage the hunger of the gun grabbing beast. Of course when you feed the beast, it only comes back stronger and hungrier than before.

Lynyrd wrote:Fienstien just filed a bill to ban bump stocks.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 731611001/

The bill would ban the sale, transfer, importation, manufacture or possession of bump stocks, trigger cranks and similar accessories that accelerate a semi-automatic rifle’s rate of fire. Feinstein said the "short and plain spoken language" of the bill will let everyone know what is banned, "no matter how fancy the device is."

I'm not a great proponent of these things. To me they are more or less toys designed to help you waste a lot of ammo. The only time they might come in handy is when 30 wild hogs are in front of you, which happens about twice a month on my place. Maybe fewer of the swine would get away.

I agree. I actually wouldn't care much if they banned these things. They don't really serve a practical purpose in my eyes.

A semi-auto rifle simply isn't designed for the stress of full-auto, particularly the barrel. Furthermore, without a mount of some kind your accuracy (the major benefit of a rifle) goes down the tubes. Additionally, it wastes ammo unnecessarily. I can't think of a single legitimate purpose for using a bump stock aside from the simple, expensive fun of using it.

While I'm all for 2A freedoms, this seems less like a 2A issue and more like a fun issue - none of the reasons we present in 2A debate come into play here. They aren't useful for hunting, they aren't useful for self protection, they aren't an effective replacement for a machine gun, so the overthrowing tyrannical government argument becomes moot, the military doesn't use them (and God willing, never will) so we can't use the "military equivalent" argument...I don't see a defense for these things, nor a reason to defend them except for that of general, all-encompassing freedom. If they ban 'em, eh - so what.

Meanwhile, they are selling out of these things and will conyinue to sell then as fast as they can make 'em before they become illegal. Putting more on the streets than anyone can imagine. It's an Obaman sales techniqe.

If the leftist had never put the AWB in place, and never threatened them. There would never be as many sold as they have. The AR 15 was an oddity among gunowners in the early 80's The threat of a ban was what really made us want to have them.

imkopaka wrote:

Lynyrd wrote:Fienstien just filed a bill to ban bump stocks.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 731611001/

The bill would ban the sale, transfer, importation, manufacture or possession of bump stocks, trigger cranks and similar accessories that accelerate a semi-automatic rifle’s rate of fire. Feinstein said the "short and plain spoken language" of the bill will let everyone know what is banned, "no matter how fancy the device is."

I'm not a great proponent of these things. To me they are more or less toys designed to help you waste a lot of ammo. The only time they might come in handy is when 30 wild hogs are in front of you, which happens about twice a month on my place. Maybe fewer of the swine would get away.

I agree. I actually wouldn't care much if they banned these things. They don't really serve a practical purpose in my eyes.

A semi-auto rifle simply isn't designed for the stress of full-auto, particularly the barrel. Furthermore, without a mount of some kind your accuracy (the major benefit of a rifle) goes down the tubes. Additionally, it wastes ammo unnecessarily. I can't think of a single legitimate purpose for using a bump stock aside from the simple, expensive fun of using it.

While I'm all for 2A freedoms, this seems less like a 2A issue and more like a fun issue - none of the reasons we present in 2A debate come into play here. They aren't useful for hunting, they aren't useful for self protection, they aren't an effective replacement for a machine gun, so the overthrowing tyrannical government argument becomes moot, the military doesn't use them (and God willing, never will) so we can't use the "military equivalent" argument...I don't see a defense for these things, nor a reason to defend them except for that of general, all-encompassing freedom. If they ban 'em, eh - so what.

Not caring if they regulate bump stocks, binary triggers or rubber bands just gets you sliding down a slippery slope. There are many so-called pro gunners who don't care if they ban military style sporting rifles. Your idea of "fun stuff" is someone else's idea of freedom.

anygunanywhere wrote:

imkopaka wrote:

Lynyrd wrote:Fienstien just filed a bill to ban bump stocks.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 731611001/

The bill would ban the sale, transfer, importation, manufacture or possession of bump stocks, trigger cranks and similar accessories that accelerate a semi-automatic rifle’s rate of fire. Feinstein said the "short and plain spoken language" of the bill will let everyone know what is banned, "no matter how fancy the device is."

I'm not a great proponent of these things. To me they are more or less toys designed to help you waste a lot of ammo. The only time they might come in handy is when 30 wild hogs are in front of you, which happens about twice a month on my place. Maybe fewer of the swine would get away.

I agree. I actually wouldn't care much if they banned these things. They don't really serve a practical purpose in my eyes.

A semi-auto rifle simply isn't designed for the stress of full-auto, particularly the barrel. Furthermore, without a mount of some kind your accuracy (the major benefit of a rifle) goes down the tubes. Additionally, it wastes ammo unnecessarily. I can't think of a single legitimate purpose for using a bump stock aside from the simple, expensive fun of using it.

While I'm all for 2A freedoms, this seems less like a 2A issue and more like a fun issue - none of the reasons we present in 2A debate come into play here. They aren't useful for hunting, they aren't useful for self protection, they aren't an effective replacement for a machine gun, so the overthrowing tyrannical government argument becomes moot, the military doesn't use them (and God willing, never will) so we can't use the "military equivalent" argument...I don't see a defense for these things, nor a reason to defend them except for that of general, all-encompassing freedom. If they ban 'em, eh - so what.

Not caring if they regulate bump stocks, binary triggers or rubber bands just gets you sliding down a slippery slope. There are many so-called pro gunners who don't care if they ban military style sporting rifles. Your idea of "fun stuff" is someone else's idea of freedom.

"At first they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out because I was not a Socialist...."

Are you certain that nothing you own can be considered "just for fun" by anyone else?

Soccerdad1995 wrote:

anygunanywhere wrote:
Not caring if they regulate bump stocks, binary triggers or rubber bands just gets you sliding down a slippery slope. There are many so-called pro gunners who don't care if they ban military style sporting rifles. Your idea of "fun stuff" is someone else's idea of freedom.

"At first they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out because I was not a Socialist...."

Are you certain that nothing you own can be considered "just for fun" by anyone else?

I'm quite certain I own a few things that others consider "just for fun". I am also certain others own things that I don't that I consider "just for fun".

The question is why would someone welcome regulation for something because they consider the object as something "just for fun", especially when the object is an item related to firearms and freedom, which is why we are all on this forum?

IMHO, we as a group should resist any attempt to regulate anything firearm related.

saying it's ok to regulate something because it's "just for fun" and you never use them and you don't see a need for them, is sort of like saying you're ok with regulating Sewing Machines for the same reasons, who would you be affecting then?
One reason the Obama admin didn't regulate Bump Stocks because they are a help for handicapped shooters, did you know that?