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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:45 am
by Greybeard
Complaint letter mailed/faxed 8-11-07 to DPS Director Thomas A. Davis, Jr. with
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/ ... 00378E.HTM as printed attachment. Copy mailed/faxed at the same time to The Honorable Senator Jeff Wentworth.
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:43 pm
by KBCraig
What's the thrust of the complaint letter? Or do you hit everything that's been discussed here?
I look forward to the reply you receive.
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:10 pm
by Greybeard
Complaint limited to SB378 being blatantly missing in 22 pages of "Legal Issues" handouts (covering other changes) and what appeared to be her intentional avoidance.
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:55 pm
by LarryArnold
stevie_d_64 wrote:On a serious note...Has anything changed/added as far as what they consider to be an "invalid" license??? Definition of???
If you submit a CR-70 or 71 to change your name, address, classification (NSA to SA) etc. once you get the new license, return the now-invalid one. They don't want you to have two licenses with current dates.
This was the original procedure back in 1995. A couple of renewals ago they changed it to say that you only had to return the invalid license if you changed classification. Now they're back to the old way.
As an instructor, it's easier to explain this way than to make the difference clear.
As far as the civil liability part of castle doctrine, I'd guess they're just afraid it's going to end up like the traveling fiasco did last time. Any limit on the ability to sue for civil damages is ripe for a legal challenge. Also, note that SB378 amended Section 83.001 of the Civil Practices and Remedies Code, not PC Chapter 9.
I went to the class on 8/9. They told us to expect the new law books January-February. It will be interesting to see what happens to PC 9.06 there, as that particular section was
not changed by SB378.
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:53 am
by Greybeard
Quote: "They don't want you to have two licenses with current dates."
Thanks, Larry. You might want to hang out here a little more, btw.

That is a much more clear way of saying it than what I heard - or attempted to hear in the midst of apparent grumbling over the flip flop. I went back through Marion's 8-page handout and found nothing to that effect, even under the part describing the downloadable CR-70. Like Pittman said in '95, "Remember: If it ain't written down, it never happened ..."
Not sure exactly who it came from, but laying on the tables when we got back from lunch was a single page handout where they had spent the $ on a color copy of the map here:
http://www.gunmap.org/ With it being entitled "The Death of Gun Control -2007", if
that one came from Ms. O'Shaw, sumbuddy needs to buy her dinner!