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jason812 wrote:

C-dub wrote:All fun and jokes aside, if I found myself in this situation and I've considered it before, I would show them my license and tell them if they want to push it any further they would have to call the police and that I'd wait. When I'd last considered this was prior to OC passing. Also, AFAIK, Best Buy does not post 30.06 or .07 signs, so at least that part of this thread is a moot point.

I might not even show them the license. Just tell them to call the police and let them make a fool of themselves.

jason812 wrote:

C-dub wrote:All fun and jokes aside, if I found myself in this situation and I've considered it before, I would show them my license and tell them if they want to push it any further they would have to call the police and that I'd wait. When I'd last considered this was prior to OC passing. Also, AFAIK, Best Buy does not post 30.06 or .07 signs, so at least that part of this thread is a moot point.

I might not even show them the license. Just tell them to call the police and let them make a fool of themselves.

Oldgringo wrote:

jason812 wrote:

C-dub wrote:All fun and jokes aside, if I found myself in this situation and I've considered it before, I would show them my license and tell them if they want to push it any further they would have to call the police and that I'd wait. When I'd last considered this was prior to OC passing. Also, AFAIK, Best Buy does not post 30.06 or .07 signs, so at least that part of this thread is a moot point.

I might not even show them the license. Just tell them to call the police and let them make a fool of themselves.

Not me! What if Barney Fife and his ilk show up?

C-dub wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:

jason812 wrote:

C-dub wrote:All fun and jokes aside, if I found myself in this situation and I've considered it before, I would show them my license and tell them if they want to push it any further they would have to call the police and that I'd wait. When I'd last considered this was prior to OC passing. Also, AFAIK, Best Buy does not post 30.06 or .07 signs, so at least that part of this thread is a moot point.

I might not even show them the license. Just tell them to call the police and let them make a fool of themselves.

Not me! What if Barney Fife and his ilk show up?

Then we'll get to nip this whole shop lifting thing in the bud.

C-dub wrote:Then we'll get to nip this whole shop lifting thing in the bud.

jason812 wrote:Just tell them to call the police and let them make a fool of themselves.

srothstein wrote:

jason812 wrote:Just tell them to call the police and let them make a fool of themselves.

Having thought about this in the past, especially since Walmart started asking for receipts to let you leave the store, this is my recommended option.

If I am ever stopped, I am going to ask them to call the police and I am not going anywhere or letting them touch me. Nor will I do anything other than wait patiently for the police to arrive. After the police do arrive, I will cooperate with them, and then call my lawyer to file the slander and defamation lawsuit.

Obviously, my advice to act this way is based on teh assumption that you are not actually shoplifting.

SQLGeek wrote:Asking because I don't honestly know. Can Best Buy or Walmart employees legally detain somebody? In other words, can somebody working at Walmart detain me if they ask for a receipt when I am leaving and I refuse to show it? Not that I would per se but just trying to understand the legalities.

SQLGeek wrote:Is LP/AP legally able to detain somebody? If so, under what authority?

SQLGeek wrote:Is LP/AP legally able to detain somebody? If so, under what authority?

Art. 18.16. PREVENTING CONSEQUENCES OF THEFT. Any person has a right to prevent the consequences of theft by seizing any personal property that has been stolen and bringing it, with the person suspected of committing the theft, if that person can be taken, before a magistrate for examination, or delivering the property and the person suspected of committing the theft to a peace officer for that purpose. To justify a seizure under this article, there must be reasonable ground to believe the property is stolen, and the seizure must be openly made and the proceedings had without delay.

srothstein wrote:

SQLGeek wrote:Is LP/AP legally able to detain somebody? If so, under what authority?

Any citizen has the authority to detain someone under Article 18.16 of the Code of Criminal Procedure.

Art. 18.16. PREVENTING CONSEQUENCES OF THEFT. Any person has a right to prevent the consequences of theft by seizing any personal property that has been stolen and bringing it, with the person suspected of committing the theft, if that person can be taken, before a magistrate for examination, or delivering the property and the person suspected of committing the theft to a peace officer for that purpose. To justify a seizure under this article, there must be reasonable ground to believe the property is stolen, and the seizure must be openly made and the proceedings had without delay.

This is what generally allows people to work security and loss prevention. But it does require them to be right. The person detained not only must be a thief but must actually have the stolen property on them.