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warnmar10 wrote: Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:09 am

Lynyrd wrote: Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:16 am

warnmar10 wrote: Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:38 pm

Lynyrd wrote: Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:55 pm Not a reason to draw your sidearm. Although despicable behavior, and repulsive.

If you're in Costco you left your sidearm in the car, right?

Never been in a Costco. Don't know what their policy is. My statement was in general about such situations.

If I had been there and had forgotten to disarm before entering and assuming I was in reasonable proximity of the actual activity I'm pretty sure I would draw my sidearm and take a defensive position if at all possible.

Would I fire on the teens? I seriously doubt it. But, I would have the gun toting teen in my sights, again, if at all possible.

warnmar10 wrote: Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:09 am

Lynyrd wrote: Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:16 am

warnmar10 wrote: Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:38 pm

Lynyrd wrote: Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:55 pm Not a reason to draw your sidearm. Although despicable behavior, and repulsive.

If you're in Costco you left your sidearm in the car, right?

Never been in a Costco. Don't know what their policy is. My statement was in general about such situations.

If I had been there and had forgotten to disarm before entering and assuming I was in reasonable proximity of the actual activity I'm pretty sure I would draw my sidearm and take a defensive position if at all possible.

Would I fire on the teens? I seriously doubt it. But, I would have the gun toting teen in my sights, again, if at all possible.

philip964 wrote: Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:35 pm

dlh wrote: Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:34 pm All of this bound to be caught on store surveillance video---out in the parking lot too. Wonder if they will release it to the public.

Not necessarily the video was working. Guns are prohibited, they called the police on this legal concealed carrier.

viewtopic.php?t=36107

This is from 2010. Haven’t forgiven them yet.

Pawpaw wrote: Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:35 pm

Lena wrote: Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:20 pm check the fine print when you joined and signed it

That doesn't make it illegal. It just means they can revoke your membership.

I'll take that gamble.

Paladin wrote: Mon Jul 02, 2018 3:37 pm

philip964 wrote: Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:35 pm

dlh wrote: Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:34 pm All of this bound to be caught on store surveillance video---out in the parking lot too. Wonder if they will release it to the public.

Not necessarily the video was working. Guns are prohibited, they called the police on this legal concealed carrier.

viewtopic.php?t=36107

This is from 2010. Haven’t forgiven them yet.

Yeah, that incident in 2010 is not something I can forgive either. Costco has some nice stuff, but I don't shop there.

jerry_r60 wrote: Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:34 pm

Pawpaw wrote: Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:35 pm

Lena wrote: Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:20 pm check the fine print when you joined and signed it

That doesn't make it illegal. It just means they can revoke your membership.

I'll take that gamble.

Are you sure it doesn’t? Is that not written notice that a member has acknowledged receiving?

Pawpaw wrote: Mon Jul 02, 2018 7:17 pmDoesn't matter. If it's not 30.06 wording, it's not enforceable.

warnmar10 wrote: Mon Jul 02, 2018 8:06 pm

Pawpaw wrote: Mon Jul 02, 2018 7:17 pmDoesn't matter. If it's not 30.06 wording, it's not enforceable.

So if I join a members only private club and by signing my name under the line that says, "I have read and acknowledge all the rules and restrictions of membership and I agree to abide and be bound by the rules...," that is not considered legal notice under Texas laws and I can just ignore the gun prohibition? Cool!

PC §30.06. TRESPASS BY HOLDER OF LICENSE TO CARRY CONCEALED HANDGUN.
a) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder:
(1) carries a concealed handgun under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, on property of another without effective consent; and
(2) received notice that entry on the property by a license holder with a concealed handgun was forbidden.
(b) For purposes of this section, a person receives notice if the owner of the property or someone with apparent authority to act for the owner provides notice to the person by oral or written communication.
(c) In this section:
(1) “Entry” has the meaning assigned by Section 30.05(b).
(2) “License holder” has the meaning assigned by Section 46.035(f).
(3) “Written communication” means:
(A) a card or other document on which is written language identical to the following: “Pursuant to Section 30.06, Penal Code (trespass by license holder with a concealed handgun), a person licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code (handgun licensing law), may not enter this property with a concealed handgun”; or
(B) a sign posted on the property that:
(i) includes the language described by Paragraph (A) in both English and Spanish;
(ii) appears in contrasting colors with block letters at least one inch in height; and
(iii) is displayed in a conspicuous manner clearly visible to the public.

Pawpaw wrote: Mon Jul 02, 2018 7:17 pm

jerry_r60 wrote: Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:34 pm

Pawpaw wrote: Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:35 pm

Lena wrote: Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:20 pm check the fine print when you joined and signed it

That doesn't make it illegal. It just means they can revoke your membership.

I'll take that gamble.

Are you sure it doesn’t? Is that not written notice that a member has acknowledged receiving?

Doesn't matter. If it's not 30.06 wording, it's not enforceable.

philip964 wrote: Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:32 pm If you carry there and you end up dieing because you did, does it really matter that they didn’t have a sign.

crazy2medic wrote: Wed Jul 04, 2018 7:52 am I just don't understand how an armed bad guy can just ignore a sign posted stating no guns inside the business!