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Re: New Zealand: 2 separate mass shootings at Mosques kill 49

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:08 pm
by G26ster
philip964 wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:18 pm https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/new- ... er-n983906

Prime Minister- gun laws will change.

Shooter had a license to own 5 guns. So some government official signed off on this shooter after an interview.

I’m going to assume the man who fired at the shooter and chased him off, was illegally carrying.

I don’t think you can carry a pistol in NZ legally. Probably only in a locked box taken from your shooting club to another shooting club and only for a competition. Otherwise I think it can only be at your shooting club.
New Zealand PM says man who assisted police, and was arrested, has been released.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBpeb2ZbMT8

Re: New Zealand: 2 separate mass shootings at Mosques kill 49

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:54 pm
by philip964
https://thinkprogress.org/new-zealand-t ... 68014abb4/

And like that semi automatic rifles are banned.

BTW Bernie and I are Facebook friends, ( or maybe I liked his page) he or his social media person, posted it this morning.

Re: New Zealand: 2 separate mass shootings at Mosques kill 49

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:31 pm
by bbhack
The New Zealand mass shooter wrote a fake manifesto that is actually what Internet trolls call “****posting.”

There are several profanities at the link. You will probably not find this analysis anywhere else in its entirety.

https://quodverum.com/2019/03/75/a-new- ... city-.html

Re: New Zealand: 2 separate mass shootings at Mosques kill 49

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:35 pm
by Beiruty
Fake or not fake, is not the fire that burned the heart of the victims's families.
I feel that in US, mosques would have either tent a cop security team or armed security volunteers with credentials

Re: New Zealand: 2 separate mass shootings at Mosques kill 49

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:11 pm
by bblhd672
Beiruty wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:35 pm I feel that in US, mosques, synagogues and churches should have either rent a cop security team or armed security volunteers with credentials
Fixed it for you.

Too many nut jobs of all political parties, religions, races and ideologies for houses of worship not to have armed security

Re: New Zealand: 2 separate mass shootings at Mosques kill 49

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:57 pm
by Beiruty
bblhd672 wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:11 pm
Beiruty wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:35 pm I feel that in US, mosques, synagogues and churches should have either rent a cop security team or armed security volunteers with credentials
Fixed it for you.

Too many nut jobs of all political parties, religions, races and ideologies for houses of worship not to have armed security
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The local mosque in my city, has a valid 30-06 and 30-07. Surprisingly, when I was at this Friday's pray. One sign was rooted out and was laying on the ground. I wanted to carry concealed but it is too easy to be spotted out. Deep concealment is recommended.

Re: New Zealand: 2 separate mass shootings at Mosques kill 49

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:15 am
by mojo84
Beiruty wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:35 pm Fake or not fake, is not the fire that burned the heart of the victims's families.
I feel that in US, mosques would have either tent a cop security team or armed security volunteers with credentials
This need is not unique to mosques.

Re: New Zealand: 2 separate mass shootings at Mosques kill 49

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:31 am
by Beiruty
mojo84 wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:15 am
Beiruty wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:35 pm Fake or not fake, is not the fire that burned the heart of the victims's families.
I feel that in US, mosques would have either tent a cop security team or armed security volunteers with credentials
This need is not unique to mosques.
I agree. All mass crowds in public places need to have some kind of protection.
Back in the days, I avoided crowded malls for safety purposes and the convenience of online shopping. Now since, I do carry, I have to track along the family for their protection and their company. However, I am trying my best to be a Dallas Pistol Club each weekend to shoot steel matches and
Personal Protection matches and Real World gun matches to keep my shooting skills up to snuff.

Re: New Zealand: 2 separate mass shootings at Mosques kill 50

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:47 am
by philip964
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing ... W5aWOC0VBk

22 year old arrested for sharing the video of the New Zealand mass shooting.

Re: New Zealand: 2 separate mass shootings at Mosques kill 50

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:00 am
by philip964
https://thenewsrep.com/115359/eco-fasci ... llMxv8Dp1g

Says he was a neo fascist, eco fascist? Shows a picture of his backpack with a fascist logo.

Re: New Zealand: 2 separate mass shootings at Mosques kill 50

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:08 pm
by philip964
New Zealand gun laws differentiate between rifles and pistols.

It seemed that all guns were difficult to get, but pistols more so.

Rifles are more deadly generally than pistols.

Dutch mass shooting yesterday was with a pistol, so less lethal more wounded than the New Zealand where few wounded.

Edit: one report said 50 wounded, so few wounded is not correct.

Re: New Zealand: 2 separate mass shootings at Mosques kill 50

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:27 pm
by philip964
philip964 wrote: Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:47 am https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing ... W5aWOC0VBk

22 year old arrested for sharing the video of the New Zealand mass shooting.
Denied Bail.

The video sharer denied bail.

President of Turkey uses footage of shooting in his re-election campaign.

http://time.com/5553205/erdogan-new-zea ... g-footage/

Re: New Zealand: 2 separate mass shootings at Mosques kill 50

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:15 pm
by philip964
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03- ... ter-terror

Kiwis voluntarily turning in their semi automatic rifles.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/arti ... d=12213947

Right from their local press.

Re: New Zealand: 2 separate mass shootings at Mosques kill 50

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:25 am
by mojo84
philip964 wrote: Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:15 pm https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03- ... ter-terror

Kiwis voluntarily turning in their semi automatic rifles.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/arti ... d=12213947

Right from their local press.
Making emotional knee jerk decisions they will come to regret.

Re: New Zealand: 2 separate mass shootings at Mosques kill 50

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:02 am
by philip964
mojo84 wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:25 am
philip964 wrote: Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:15 pm https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03- ... ter-terror

Kiwis voluntarily turning in their semi automatic rifles.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/arti ... d=12213947

Right from their local press.
Making emotional knee jerk decisions they will come to regret.
Kewis have few enemies. So little chance of an invasion. Then I remembered the Maoris. I betcha they wished they had semi automatic rifles 150 years ago.