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Re: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:49 pm
by Skooter
Warm up the barrel/upper and then hit the brass with super chilled liquid spray (upside-down co2 Duster).

Re: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:15 am
by Beiruty
Skooter wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:49 pm Warm up the barrel/upper and then hit the brass with super chilled liquid spray (upside-down co2 Duster).
Great idea. Waiting on a 3/16" x 24" solid brass to be delivered.

Re: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:42 am
by DocV

Re: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:57 am
by Beiruty
Unfortunately, the above tool's collet head does not fit inside the AR Chamber locking "teeth"

Re: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:46 pm
by jason812
Beiruty, did you get the case out?

Re: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:21 pm
by The Annoyed Man
It looks from your pictures as though the stuck round wasn’t fully seated to begin with.it may well be that the previous round left a piece of brass stuck in the chamber.

Re: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:20 am
by Beiruty
The Annoyed Man wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:21 pm It looks from your pictures as though the stuck round wasn’t fully seated to begin with.it may well be that the previous round left a piece of brass stuck in the chamber.
This is what I expect to find out soon. The 24" brass rod was not delivered yet. I suspected that the case neck was split and stayed in the chamber when the next round entered the chamber.

Re: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:56 am
by The Annoyed Man
Beiruty wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:20 am
The Annoyed Man wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:21 pm It looks from your pictures as though the stuck round wasn’t fully seated to begin with.it may well be that the previous round left a piece of brass stuck in the chamber.
This is what I expect to find out soon. The 24" brass rod was not delivered yet. I suspected that the case neck was split and stayed in the chamber when the next round entered the chamber.
Beiruty, you might want to consider pulling the barrel off of the receiver if tapping on it with the brass rod with medium force doesn’t do it. Depending on how you have the upper clamped in a vise, if you have to start banging too hard on the stuck case with that rod, it could potentially damage the receiver. Removing the barrel, or at least clamping the barrel in the vise rather than using a receiver block to fix the upper in place while beating on the rod, would eliminate the possibility of receiver damage.

I'd be very careful about the use of heat on the barrel anywhere near the receiver extension. Another thought... if the bullet is already set back all the way into the case, maybe you could use a cleaning rod to keep the bullet pushed back while you dump any remaining powder charge out the front of the barrel. That way, if the primer does detonate, you’ll lessen the risks of bad juju.

Anyway, good luck with it, and let us know the final outcome.

Re: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:25 am
by Beiruty
The Annoyed Man wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:56 am
Beiruty wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:20 am
The Annoyed Man wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:21 pm It looks from your pictures as though the stuck round wasn’t fully seated to begin with.it may well be that the previous round left a piece of brass stuck in the chamber.
This is what I expect to find out soon. The 24" brass rod was not delivered yet. I suspected that the case neck was split and stayed in the chamber when the next round entered the chamber.
Beiruty, you might want to consider pulling the barrel off of the receiver if tapping on it with the brass rod with medium force doesn’t do it. Depending on how you have the upper clamped in a vise, if you have to start banging too hard on the stuck case with that rod, it could potentially damage the receiver. Removing the barrel, or at least clamping the barrel in the vise rather than using a receiver block to fix the upper in place while beating on the rod, would eliminate the possibility of receiver damage.

I'd be very careful about the use of heat on the barrel anywhere near the receiver extension. Another thought... if the bullet is already set back all the way into the case, maybe you could use a cleaning rod to keep the bullet pushed back while you dump any remaining powder charge out the front of the barrel. That way, if the primer does detonate, you’ll lessen the risks of bad juju.

Anyway, good luck with it, and let us know the final outcome.
I may have to remove the barrel if the round does not get out easily.

Re: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:46 pm
by Beiruty
Update:
Use science, a few sec of super chilled compressed "air in a can", sprayed on the case head, made the mission way easier. One bang and it just came out.
Photos:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/8uKwduy1N7Wop ... 13OHfLBs5o
Chamber was polished too, too much black stuff came out
Photos:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Z83ZGuc72GQoV ... 90NDHJhJJ0

Re: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:11 pm
by mojo84
Beiruty wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:46 pm Update:
Use science, a few sec of super chilled compress "air in a can", sprayed on the case head, made the mission way easier. One bang and it just came out.
Photos:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/8uKwduy1N7Wop ... 13OHfLBs5o
Chamber was polished too, too much black stuff came out
Photos:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Z83ZGuc72GQoV ... 90NDHJhJJ0
:clapping:

Re: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:05 pm
by Skooter
Awesome news... I've been waiting to see the results...

Re: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:48 am
by mojo84
Would something like liquid wrench orPB Blaster have worked? Would that be damaging to the chamber?

Re: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:51 am
by kayt00
Beiruty wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:46 pm Update:
Use science, a few sec of super chilled compressed "air in a can", sprayed on the case head, made the mission way easier. One bang and it just came out.
Photos:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/8uKwduy1N7Wop ... 13OHfLBs5o
Chamber was polished too, too much black stuff came out
Photos:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Z83ZGuc72GQoV ... 90NDHJhJJ0
Because science, glad that worked out. Any idea what caused the problem?

Re: Houston we got a problem... Live Rd jammed

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:41 am
by Beiruty
kayt00 wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:51 am
Beiruty wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:46 pm Update:
Use science, a few sec of super chilled compressed "air in a can", sprayed on the case head, made the mission way easier. One bang and it just came out.
Photos:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/8uKwduy1N7Wop ... 13OHfLBs5o
Chamber was polished too, too much black stuff came out
Photos:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Z83ZGuc72GQoV ... 90NDHJhJJ0
Because science, glad that worked out. Any idea what caused the problem?
This is why it did not chamber:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/YBMcuyALqRo5XbJJ7