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No-Knock Warrants - Why The Breonna Taylor & Kenneth Walker Shooting Should Terrify Gun Owners
100% why everyone should have some form of recording at their door. Ring doorbell, security cameras from Harbor Freight, anything.Charles L. Cotton wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 5:33 pmIf the raid took place at 1:30AM, it is quite likely that the residents didn't hear anything the officers may have said while entering. (I don't believe they announced anything, but I may be wrong.) I don't believe for one second that they knocked on the door several times before breaking in. They wouldn't have gotten a "no knock" warrant had they intended to do so.Paladin wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 3:13 pmThe officer's knocking and announcing their presence is a fact in dispute. With the known fact that the officers had a warrant for a bogus address and an apparent bogus sighting of a car... this sounds like an incident similar to what happened in Houston. An officer lied and/or manufactured evidence to get the warrant... and allegedly did a poor job executing the warrant. In any event it was a bad raid with an unnecessary death.03Lightningrocks wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 2:51 pm Kentucky is KY. If the officers announced their presence, I am not sure how the home owner can claim they did not know it was the cops. This one should get interesting. I wonder if the cops had their body cams running. I do worry about the "no knock" warrants for this very reason.
Chas.
Charles L. Cotton wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 5:33 pmIf the raid took place at 1:30AM, it is quite likely that the residents didn't hear anything the officers may have said while entering. (I don't believe they announced anything, but I may be wrong.) I don't believe for one second that they knocked on the door several times before breaking in. They wouldn't have gotten a "no knock" warrant had they intended to do so.Paladin wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 3:13 pmThe officer's knocking and announcing their presence is a fact in dispute. With the known fact that the officers had a warrant for a bogus address and an apparent bogus sighting of a car... this sounds like an incident similar to what happened in Houston. An officer lied and/or manufactured evidence to get the warrant... and allegedly did a poor job executing the warrant. In any event it was a bad raid with an unnecessary death.03Lightningrocks wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 2:51 pm Kentucky is KY. If the officers announced their presence, I am not sure how the home owner can claim they did not know it was the cops. This one should get interesting. I wonder if the cops had their body cams running. I do worry about the "no knock" warrants for this very reason.
Chas.
Bill Hemmer just said it was a no knock warrant again. At least the reporter reporting the story got it right saying it was NOT a no knock warrant. The media is just criminal in their reporting at times.rtschl wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:00 pm Haven't seen it, but others reporting Kentucky AG in press conference just now saying it was NOT "no knock" and that information is corroborated.
So we've been lied to all this time.
Link added:
https://twitter.com/BuckSexton/status/1 ... 2015601665
That was my understanding. A no knock warrant was issued, but for some reason the officers decided knock and announce. KY Attorney General said there was corroboration on the knock and announcement.03Lightningrocks wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:04 pm Christ! Now they are saying no knock warrant but the cops did knock and announce. It sux there is no body cam footage.
BigGuy wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:53 pmThat was my understanding. A no knock warrant was issued, but for some reason the officers decided knock and announce. KY Attorney General said there was corroboration on the knock and announcement.03Lightningrocks wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:04 pm Christ! Now they are saying no knock warrant but the cops did knock and announce. It sux there is no body cam footage.
Still, something feels off. Why would you knock with a no knock warrant? Body cam would sure clear up some of the mystery.
I was listening to an interview with one of the senior offices from Dallas PD on talk radio this afternoon. The officer said that one of the most important parts of gaining community support in some of these high profile (for right or wrong) is transparency. Sometimes, like in the Michael Brown matter with "hands up, don't shoot" the facts don't matter. In others, some straight information would help to keep the media from playing with facts. If any of the facts are true about packages of drugs being sent to her house by her previous boyfriend, some of the reasons for the raid are more clear. I've always had a problem with the no-knock premise that the evidence can be flushed down the toilet before the officers can get in to seize it. I'm not sure breaking down doors for the quantities of drugs that can be quickly flushed down toilets is the best strategy.