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terryg wrote:

sjfcontrol wrote:

terryg wrote:

sjfcontrol wrote:Yep! That's what they think. "Guns are dangerous. I am the only one professional enough that I know of in this room to handle this Glock 40."

fixed it for ya

Yeah, I was working from (faulty) memory.

That's ok - I just remember because I was thinking that pretty much ANYBODY in the room would be more qualified ...

You forgot the "KBoom" on the end.

Implied!

Not the first time Mr. Congeniality has gone nuts. Here is a second video. I hope they fire him and put him in jail. He has no business being a cop.

http://www.fox8.com/videobeta/314f65d3- ... Canton-Cop" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

C-dub wrote:

JJVP wrote:

Dragonfighter wrote:Ah, just following their example. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBfpBxY2J00" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Man, they are more advanced in OH regarding CCW than here in TX. According to Mr. Schulman you can carry in universities, schools and bars.

In some areas they might be, but I bet it is much easier for a business to restrict carry than it is here. And many states restrict carry in government buildings and city property.

Man we need a sarcasm smilie. You can't carry in a university or a school or bar in OH. Mr. Schulman is an idiot.

JJVP wrote:Not the first time Mr. Congeniality has gone nuts. Here is a second video. I hope they fire him and put him in jail. He has no business being a cop.

http://www.fox8.com/videobeta/314f65d3- ... Canton-Cop" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Amazing! He does the exact same thing - threatening to shoot the man - "I'll shoot you in the face and I'll go to sleep at night". This cop needs to go and never serve in a LEO capacity anywhere ever. He's need psychological counseling.

Poldark wrote:There are good LEO's out there team.

Oceanside Open Carry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFzH5Oe- ... r_embedded" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Officer Lyons has a book to promote...
I'd say this video does him a ton of good free press.

Kudos on this stop, regardless of the secondary agenda. Check the author on this book.
http://www.amazon.com/Oceanside-Police- ... 073853112X" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

...the great majority of fine LEO's are why jerks like this stink so bad...the contrast is night and day...we've especially got a lot of fine ones in Texas...putting my old crew in La. to shame...we've got some blue knights for sure...

chasfm11 wrote:

Blindref757 wrote:I would be willing to bet that this officer talks to people like this every night he works. He needs to find a new line of work.

I'd be willing to bet that he isn't alone on this conduct either. His partner's willingness to tolerate the outbursts indicates that the opinion of the City Councilman is understood within the department. Like just about everywhere else, I'm sure that the department has a lot of good, dedicated officers. There will always be a few officers like this one who need to be kept in line.

If the 98% were worried about teh bad name they get from the 2%, they'd do something about it. Ever time we hear about "just this one bad cop", video shows at least one other right there with him doing nothing about it. Sometimes a dozen plus. Nobody does anything? Is it really just that one cop thats bad?

I agree 100%. I cannot beleive that his partner stood there and did nothing to calm down the irate cop. If you notice his partner makes sure to stay out of the frame most of the time so you know he is thinking about how bad this situation is. If this guy was one bad apple then the logic would dictate the question, where is the bad apple that trained him.

Just found an update on this "event" at http://ohioccw.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Apparently the PD and prosecutor are adamant about getting their 'pound of flesh' from this poor guy. They have set a trial date of November 9th. I'm beginning to think that this township would have been perfectly comfortable in 1940 Germany.......

Interesting the difference between Texas and Ohio. They have to constantly sue the government to get their rights under the constitution and Ohio law.

philip964 wrote:Interesting the difference between Texas and Ohio. They have to constantly sue the government to get their rights under the constitution and Ohio law.

What is going on here is the prosecutor knows that the city is facing a lot of liability from a civil suit, so they are desperately trying to push through any kind of criminal conviction so that it will help their defense in the civil rights case.

Jumping Frog wrote:

philip964 wrote:Interesting the difference between Texas and Ohio. They have to constantly sue the government to get their rights under the constitution and Ohio law.

What is going on here is the prosecutor knows that the city is facing a lot of liability from a civil suit, so they are desperately trying to push through any kind of criminal conviction so that it will help their defense in the civil rights case.

Given the nature and degree of the evidence against the officer, I would think that the best course would be for them to dismiss the charges and hammer the officer into the ground, then tell the civil case jury, "Yes an error was made and we vigorously corrected it!" You can bet that man's attorney will use the criminal proceedings to inflame the civil jury against the govt. and township. Even if they win the criminal case it's going to bite them on the backside. I wouldn't be surprised if the feds get called to investigate possible civil rights violations by the PD since this is not the only incident involving this officer.

bilgerat57 wrote:

Jumping Frog wrote:

philip964 wrote:Interesting the difference between Texas and Ohio. They have to constantly sue the government to get their rights under the constitution and Ohio law.

What is going on here is the prosecutor knows that the city is facing a lot of liability from a civil suit, so they are desperately trying to push through any kind of criminal conviction so that it will help their defense in the civil rights case.

Given the nature and degree of the evidence against the officer, I would think that the best course would be for them to dismiss the charges and hammer the officer into the ground, then tell the civil case jury, "Yes an error was made and we vigorously corrected it!" You can bet that man's attorney will use the criminal proceedings to inflame the civil jury against the govt. and township. Even if they win the criminal case it's going to bite them on the backside. I wouldn't be surprised if the feds get called to investigate possible civil rights violations by the PD since this is not the only incident involving this officer.

Really? This administration? I am surprised Holder and company are not spinning this incident into "why there should be no guns in cars".

http://ohioccwforums.org/viewtopic.php? ... 9&start=30" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Looks like they are going to court on the 9th to press charges anyway.