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Ok. Spent all of today watching the second season, and I'm finally done. Question...why don't they call them "zombies"?

It's not a bad show, and I hate to say I can't believe I've missed the last few years of it. Whoever is producing this show seems to have an agenda that you don't need anything but pump shotguns, revolvers, and bolt action rifles to defend yourself from zombie hordes. Although, I'm not quite sure they are getting the point across. A couple guys with AKs or ARs and a few hundred rounds would have made short work of that zombie horde that hit the farm; even one of those deuce and a half trucks, they passed up so many times, (that will run on all sorts of fuel) would have made a mess of them. But no, they chose to stay with a busted up motor home.

So now I gotta wait for season 3 re-runs to catch them in order.

Chris wrote:Ok. Spent all of today watching the second season, and I'm finally done. Question...why don't they call them "zombies"?

It's not a bad show, and I hate to say I can't believe I've missed the last few years of it. Whoever is producing this show seems to have an agenda that you don't need anything but pump shotguns, revolvers, and bolt action rifles to defend yourself from zombie hordes. Although, I'm not quite sure they are getting the point across. A couple guys with AKs or ARs and a few hundred rounds would have made short work of that zombie horde that hit the farm; even one of those deuce and a half trucks, they passed up so many times, (that will run on all sorts of fuel) would have made a mess of them. But no, they chose to stay with a busted up motor home.

So now I gotta wait for season 3 re-runs to catch them in order.

Don't worry, in Season 3 when other surviving humans become a bigger problem than the zombies, the group finds some full-auto ARs and AKs laying around

A-R wrote:

Chris wrote:Ok. Spent all of today watching the second season, and I'm finally done. Question...why don't they call them "zombies"?

It's not a bad show, and I hate to say I can't believe I've missed the last few years of it. Whoever is producing this show seems to have an agenda that you don't need anything but pump shotguns, revolvers, and bolt action rifles to defend yourself from zombie hordes. Although, I'm not quite sure they are getting the point across. A couple guys with AKs or ARs and a few hundred rounds would have made short work of that zombie horde that hit the farm; even one of those deuce and a half trucks, they passed up so many times, (that will run on all sorts of fuel) would have made a mess of them. But no, they chose to stay with a busted up motor home.

So now I gotta wait for season 3 re-runs to catch them in order.

Don't worry, in Season 3 when other surviving humans become a bigger problem than the zombies, the group finds some full-auto ARs and AKs laying around

It seems the availability of ammo is no longer a problem in the zombie apocalypse.

03Lightningrocks wrote:

A-R wrote:

Chris wrote:Ok. Spent all of today watching the second season, and I'm finally done. Question...why don't they call them "zombies"?

It's not a bad show, and I hate to say I can't believe I've missed the last few years of it. Whoever is producing this show seems to have an agenda that you don't need anything but pump shotguns, revolvers, and bolt action rifles to defend yourself from zombie hordes. Although, I'm not quite sure they are getting the point across. A couple guys with AKs or ARs and a few hundred rounds would have made short work of that zombie horde that hit the farm; even one of those deuce and a half trucks, they passed up so many times, (that will run on all sorts of fuel) would have made a mess of them. But no, they chose to stay with a busted up motor home.

So now I gotta wait for season 3 re-runs to catch them in order.

Don't worry, in Season 3 when other surviving humans become a bigger problem than the zombies, the group finds some full-auto ARs and AKs laying around

It seems the availability of ammo is no longer a problem in the zombie apocalypse.

I'm not watching the show, but I assume this is simply because there are fewer people alive and enough "battlefield pickups" to keep things going?

The part in red: liberal hollywood thinking. Obviously, they are not interested in the historical fact that the AR15 has been the single most popular selling rifle for a couple of decades at least, nor do they think of the 2nd Amendment as being anything more than a guarantee of the right to self-defense and hunting. I noted the following in the earlier episodes, the "bad guy" LEO, the "good guy" LEO's former partner (I can't be bothered to memorize their names), carried an all black XD Compact, while the "good guy" LEO carried a large-framed stainless .357 with a long barrel. The "bad guy" carried his gun either SOB, or in a concealment holster with a certain amount of cant, while the "good guy" carries his big .357 in a nearly useless "cowboy" style holster, dangling low on his thigh and flopping around. The "good guy" is limited to 6 or 7 rounds in the gun while the "bad guy" is limited to whatever the magazine capacity of a XD Compact happens to be (and with a larger magazine available for backup). The good guy is all cowboy, the bad guy is all tactical. The good cop was not mentally or materially prepared for a zombie apocalypse. The bad cop was obviously ready. OTHER bad guys who were ready: the bowhunter and his criminal older brother.

The implications are obvious. People who prep are either paranoid or criminalistic. "Good" people don't think about such things. Survival depends upon "good" people, who possess higher order thinking skills and more finely developed morality, coalescing with the paranoid and criminalistic. Leadership must come from the good people, who also are to provide the moral center for the survivors, while the paranoid and criminalistic are the war fighters. The criminalistic need the good people to keep them from all killing one another, and the good people need the criminalistic to fight and die for them.

The perfect liberal paradigm.

I no longer watch the show. I can't be bothered, since I can see exactly the same thing simply by reading the political news.

Now, if they would make the "Day by Day Armageddon" series of books into a zombie survival movie, THAT would be worth it.

I dunno TAM. I need to start off by reminding everyone that I don't do comics and have not read the comic books of this story. That being said, I wonder if the firearms these guys are carrying imitate what the comic characters had? The good cops image is that of a "good ole boy" and I can tell you that one can't get more "good ole boy" than a western style carry and a colt Python.

My SIL informed me of one interesting factoid. The son, can't recall his name, was a very sadistic kid from early on in the comic series. Last season they finally began to make him a little butt kicker in the TV show.

03Lightningrocks wrote:I dunno TAM. I need to start off by reminding everyone that I don't do comics and have not read the comic books of this story. That being said, I wonder if the firearms these guys are carrying imitate what the comic characters had? The good cops image is that of a "good ole boy" and I can tell you that one can't get more "good ole boy" than a western style carry and a colt Python.

My SIL informed me of one interesting factoid. The son, can't recall his name, was a very sadistic kid from early on in the comic series. Last season they finally began to make him a little butt kicker in the TV show.

Carl wasn't sadistic in the comic, that's another kid.

Carl learns early from his Father, and the new environment, that there are times we must do things that we don't enjoy, including the use of violence. Carl, and Rick, are NEVER portrayed as taking any pleasure from having to use violence to survive.

There is a game on PC that is a port of Arma 2 called Day-Z about the zombie apocalypse. When it first came out, people were befriending anyone they could find in game. It didn't take long before zombies were nothing more than a nuisance in your defense from other players and player teams. People made it a point to play solely to kill other players and scavenge their supplies. Many played on people's trust where they would lure them in as a friend, only to kill them shortly thereafter. I know it's just a game, but it speaks to the mentality people get after being involved in something that requires a different way of thinking.

Texas Dan Mosby wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:I dunno TAM. I need to start off by reminding everyone that I don't do comics and have not read the comic books of this story. That being said, I wonder if the firearms these guys are carrying imitate what the comic characters had? The good cops image is that of a "good ole boy" and I can tell you that one can't get more "good ole boy" than a western style carry and a colt Python.

My SIL informed me of one interesting factoid. The son, can't recall his name, was a very sadistic kid from early on in the comic series. Last season they finally began to make him a little butt kicker in the TV show.

Carl wasn't sadistic in the comic, that's another kid.

Carl learns early from his Father, and the new environment, that there are times we must do things that we don't enjoy, including the use of violence. Carl, and Rick, are NEVER portrayed as taking any pleasure from having to use violence to survive.

Thanks for the clarification. I probably got my sadistic kid mixed up with Carl.

Chris wrote:There is a game on PC that is a port of Arma 2 called Day-Z about the zombie apocalypse. When it first came out, people were befriending anyone they could find in game. It didn't take long before zombies were nothing more than a nuisance in your defense from other players and player teams. People made it a point to play solely to kill other players and scavenge their supplies. Many played on people's trust where they would lure them in as a friend, only to kill them shortly thereafter. I know it's just a game, but it speaks to the mentality people get after being involved in something that requires a different way of thinking.

I think this is more likely to be the case in an EOW scenario than people being kind and helpful. If resources are limited and there is no law, would not the "bad guys" have the slight edge because they would be more likely to shoot an innocent in the face for the supplies than a "good guy" ?

03Lightningrocks wrote:<SNIP> Carl, and Rick, are NEVER portrayed as taking any pleasure from having to use violence to survive.

Thanks for the clarification. I probably got my sadistic kid mixed up with Carl.

Carl is hard core though, you have to admit that. The talk Rick had with him in Herschel's barn stuck and he hasn't looked back. Now if we can get Rick to do a de-orbit burn and return to planet sanity, we'll be good.

Dragonfighter wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:<SNIP> Carl, and Rick, are NEVER portrayed as taking any pleasure from having to use violence to survive.

Thanks for the clarification. I probably got my sadistic kid mixed up with Carl.

Carl is hard core though, you have to admit that. The talk Rick had with him in Herschel's barn stuck and he hasn't looked back. Now if we can get Rick to do a de-orbit burn and return to planet sanity, we'll be good.

Watching his momma getting a c section with a hunting knife and then shooting her in the head probably helped as well.

Yeah... The ghost/insanity thing is dumb. Everything else makes perfect sense to me.

I agree that Lori needs to go away, the sooner the better. The ghost thingy is really taking away from the show.

Right2Carry wrote:I agree that Lori needs to go away, the sooner the better. The ghost thingy is really taking away from the show.

But I can see how the white satin gown and not being covered by zombie grunge could be a distraction.

How about favorite lines? Mine is from Herschel, "Jesus said the dead would rise; I just thought he had something else in mind."

Dragonfighter wrote:

Right2Carry wrote:I agree that Lori needs to go away, the sooner the better. The ghost thingy is really taking away from the show.

But I can see how the white satin gown and not being covered by zombie grunge could be a distraction.

How about favorite lines? Mine is from Herschel, "Jesus said the dead would rise; I just thought he had something else in mind."

OK.....

I like this one... From Rick

"You want to kill me, you're going to have to do better than that wrench."

Here is another of my favorite chuckles by Shane.....relates to a post above by TAM...

" You can't just be the good guy and expect to live. Not anymore."