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the 2nd doesn't say that I can't have a machine gun. my HOA does

SewTexas wrote:the 2nd doesn't say that I can't have a machine gun. my HOA does

Does your HOA really say that? Why?

mr1337 wrote:

SewTexas wrote:the 2nd doesn't say that I can't have a machine gun. my HOA does

Does your HOA really say that? Why?

it's not really the machine gun....it's the tank I want to mount it on that's the problem

HB910 postponed until 6PM

During the break... what do you guys think? Does an open carrier's going through the Capitol metal detector present probable cause to detain and be asked for a CHL?

Ruark wrote:During the break... what do you guys think? Does an open carrier's going through the Capitol metal detector present probable cause to detain and be asked for a CHL?

Yes. It's a stupid question designed to obfuscate the issue. Take the amendment down and let's finish this.

Ruark wrote:During the break... what do you guys think? Does an open carrier's going through the Capitol metal detector present probable cause to detain and be asked for a CHL?

As I understand it, CHL holders don't go through the metal detector lines. There's another line staffed by DPS they go through, and bypassess the metal detectors. DPS officer checks your CHL and passes you through.

There is but you don't necessarily have to go through it. You could go through the metal detectors if you wanted to, but why anybody would if they were carrying is beyond me.

joe817 wrote:

Ruark wrote:During the break... what do you guys think? Does an open carrier's going through the Capitol metal detector present probable cause to detain and be asked for a CHL?

As I understand it, CHL holders don't go through the metal detector lines. There's another line staffed by DPS they go through, and bypassess the metal detectors. DPS officer checks your CHL and passes you through.

You are correct.

CHL holders have to present their license to enter the Capitol with their concealed handgun. They would be required to do so with their openly carried handgun as well.

Scott Farkus wrote:There is but you don't necessarily have to go through it. You could go through the metal detectors if you wanted to.

Haven't tried that, but they take your CHL and run it through a magnetic strip reader near the CHL line. It will pull up your license info and picture.

joe817 wrote:

Ruark wrote:During the break... what do you guys think? Does an open carrier's going through the Capitol metal detector present probable cause to detain and be asked for a CHL?

As I understand it, CHL holders don't go through the metal detector lines. There's another line staffed by DPS they go through, and bypassess the metal detectors. DPS officer checks your CHL and passes you through.

Exactly. So they're redirected to the correct line where they either present the license or get turned away.

We need an organized effort or a CTA, who cares about metal detectors or the Capital building for that matter.
WE NEED THIS BILL PASSED.....HELP!!!

safety1 wrote:We need an organized effort or a CTA, who cares about metal detectors or the Capital building for that matter.
WE NEED THIS BILL PASSED.....HELP!!!

What are our options? How do we get Huffines to withdraw his amendment?

Robert91RS wrote:What are our options? How do we get Huffines to withdraw his amendment?

Call and email his office:
512-463-0116
Don.Huffines@senate.state.tx.us

Robert91RS wrote:

safety1 wrote:We need an organized effort or a CTA, who cares about metal detectors or the Capital building for that matter.
WE NEED THIS BILL PASSED.....HELP!!!

What are our options? How do we get Huffines to withdraw his amendment?

Read this thread and call!! I just did!

http://texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=133&t=77720" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

mr1337 wrote: CHL holders have to present their license to enter the Capitol with their concealed handgun. They would be required to do so with their openly carried handgun as well.

I'm not so sure. The whole issue with those metal detectors and that "CHL line" was that a good number of the legislators were CC'ing. Remember, ANY time you set off a metal detector, they have to determine what set it off. When the CC'ers set off the metal detectors, they had to remove (and therefore, expose) their guns, which understandably was quite awkward, as well as violating the requirement of maintaining concealment. So they created the "CHL line" - you notice that when you go through that line, they don't ask to see your gun, because it has to remain concealed, and you notice there's no metal detector. The original purpose of the CHL line is not to confirm that an individual has a CHL, it's to enable CC'ers to enter the Capitol without exposing their weapons.

In the suggested case, however, it's no longer illegal to expose your firearm, so you should be able to either put it in the plastic tray along with your belt and wristwatch, or wear it and be wanded, or, if you're carrying concealed, raise your coat to show why the detector went off. There's no probable cause to suspect that the individual has been, is, or will be involved in criminal activity, so....?

This is my hypothesis, and I may be wrong. But I think it's a good question, albeit one with a lot of knee-jerk responses.

I wonder if that guy would have brought up this question even if Huffines hadn't proposed this amendment.