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Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:45 pm
by sjfcontrol
Huffington Post
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:54 pm
by The Annoyed Man
sjfcontrol wrote:Huffington Post
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/ ... YV20120716
The full court press is on. The relative in question said that Z's family was "known to be racist," but couldn't give any examples of how so.
According to her, the molestation, if that's what it was, started when she was 6 and he was 8, and continued for 10 years until she was 16 and he was 18. I'm not buying it just yet. At 6 and 8, is it molestation, or is it "playing post office?"
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:55 pm
by 74novaman
The Annoyed Man wrote:
The full court press is on. The relative in question said that Z's family was "known to be racist," but couldn't give any examples of how so.
Yep. They're just going to keep throwing stuff at the wall until something sticks.
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:02 pm
by sjfcontrol
From Z's website...
Today the State released Witness #9's Statements along with Mr. Zimmerman's phone calls from jail in response to the Court's July 13 order.
In her statements, Witness #9, who is George Zimmerman's cousin, alleges that Mr. Zimmerman inappropriately touched her beginning when she was 6 and Mr. Zimmerman was almost 8, and that it continued on occasion until she was 16 and Mr. Zimmerman was 17.
The defense moved to block the public release of Witness #9's statement in a motion filed on June 18, 2012 contending "The content of this statement is not relevant to the issues of this case, and it would not be admissible in the State's case in chief." The motion further contends that this irrelevant statement should be withheld from public dissemination because of the substantial risk that public disclosure will lead to widespread hostile publicity which would substantially impair the Defendant's fair trial rights, and would pose a serious threat to the administration of justice.
That request was denied on July 13, 2012 by Judge Lester. Because there is a Motion for Disqualification pending, this morning, we asked the prosecution not to release Witness #9's statement until there was a ruling on the Motion for Disqualification. This is an appropriate request as, should the motion for disqualification be granted, reconsideration of recent rulings by the judge is appropriate. However, the prosecution elected to make the public disclosure anyway.
Now that this statement is part of the public record, the defense will vigorously defend Mr. Zimmerman against the allegations. In the next several weeks, there will be reciprocal discovery filed regarding Witness #9's statement.
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:29 pm
by philip964
RottenApple wrote:philip964 wrote:News flash!!! Zimmerman is alleged to have molested over a ten year period a female family relative.
Woman came forward to prosecutors, and prosecutors released audio tapes of interview, so Zimmerman could get a fair trial.
Started when she was six years old. He was 8 at the time.
Link?
Sorry I didn't know how to do that on my iPhone, I'm sure there is an easy way, but you probably have to be under 30.
So is this guy being railroaded now? Why would salacious evidence unrelated to the charge at hand be released to the press before trial. The only reason I can think of is to poison the jury pool.
I suspect the judge will be replaced.
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:32 pm
by sjfcontrol
philip964 wrote:RottenApple wrote:philip964 wrote:News flash!!! Zimmerman is alleged to have molested over a ten year period a female family relative.
Woman came forward to prosecutors, and prosecutors released audio tapes of interview, so Zimmerman could get a fair trial.
Started when she was six years old. He was 8 at the time.
Link?
Sorry I didn't know how to to that on my iPhone, I'm sure there is an easy way, but you probably have to be under 30.
So is this guy being railroaded now?
Why would salacious evidence unrelated to the charge at hand be released to the press before trial. The only reason I can think of is to poison the jury pool.
I suspect the judge will be replaced.
Yep!!
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:26 pm
by Heartland Patriot
I think I figured out how she knew that family were racists...she heard the Zimmerman family laughing when they were watching an rerun episode of "The Jeffersons", or maybe it was "What's Happening!" or perhaps "The Cosby Show"...
My theory is just as good as any of the other junk the race-baiters are floating, IMHO.
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:10 pm
by mamabearCali
I think we are at the point where the prosecution knows there is no case and following the let's throw mud at the wall and see if something sticks routine. Even if it was true it has 0 bearing on what happened that night. I do find it odd that a
person who had been assaulted would still consent to see the person at the age of 16.....IMHO that is not likely.
If there is anything to it, at the age of 6 and 8 I would chalk it up to curiosity about bodies, not vindictive assault.
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:44 am
by psijac
This testimony is highly suspect. the judge decided to release this testimony less than an hour after a motion was filed to claiming the judge was bias and needed to be replaced. For those that say Zimmerman should never have gotten out of the car, this girl could have prevented trayvons death by sending zimmerman to jail years earlier for sexual assault.
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:55 am
by VMI77
The Annoyed Man wrote:sjfcontrol wrote:Huffington Post
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/ ... YV20120716
The full court press is on. The relative in question said that Z's family was "known to be racist," but couldn't give any examples of how so.
According to her, the molestation, if that's what it was, started when she was 6 and he was 8, and continued for 10 years until she was 16 and he was 18. I'm not buying it just yet. At 6 and 8, is it molestation, or is it "playing post office?"
These tactics may backfire. While many potential jurors may believe it there will be many that recognize the prosecution's smear campaign and just dismiss all evidence against Zimmerman, even the parts that are relevant and true.
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:12 am
by WildBill
This is getting more bizarre by the minute. It's hard for me to believe that this is happening in our "justice sytem."
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:05 am
by BKRushing
psijac wrote:BKRushing wrote:
Big difference between a hero complex and a hero. Zimmerman was playing cop without the training an LEO has and made poor choices with a tragic outcome.
I am no law enforcement office but what kind of cop training would have prevented this tragedy?
My point is an LEO would not be alone, would have at least been readily identifiable as an LEO and most likely would have his/her lights flashing on their cruiser. Provided Martin was not breaking the law, he would have had nothing to fear from a police officer questioning him. As I have said in previous posts, this is a case of two people making poor choices. Martin for trying to confront Zimmerman about why he was following him and Zimmerman for getting out of his car to follow him which as far as I know all neighborhood watch volunteers are told not to do. It is not a clear cut instance of racial profiling, but rather an instance two people making some poor choices with a tragic outcome.
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:12 am
by anygunanywhere
WildBill wrote:This is getting more bizarre by the minute. It's hard for me to believe that this is happening in our "justice sytem."
Bizarre has been around a long time. Think Simpson trial.
Anygunanywhere
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:12 pm
by WildBill
anygunanywhere wrote:WildBill wrote:This is getting more bizarre by the minute. It's hard for me to believe that this is happening in our "justice sytem."
Bizarre has been around a long time. Think Simpson trial.
Anygunanywhere
At least some of that could be attributed to his celebrity.
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:17 pm
by Dave2
anygunanywhere wrote:WildBill wrote:This is getting more bizarre by the minute. It's hard for me to believe that this is happening in our "justice sytem."
Bizarre has been around a long time. Think Simpson trial.
Anygunanywhere
Yeah, but the half weirdness in that trial was from the media foaming at the mouth over... you know, I'm really not sure what they were all up about. Anyway, my point is that most of that trial's weirdness wasn't coming
from the legal system... IIRC... which I might not because it was a long time ago.