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Re: Urgent: XDs recall...
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:03 pm
by bagman45
Haven't sent mine in yet, as I was afraid of something like this. Will continue to wait until the dust clears and reviews come back from those who have had their "upgraded". Never had a problem with mine, so would prefer to wait as opposed to take the risk that they NEVER find a fix and DON'T return them. That said, once good reviews give the "all clear", I'll send it in, but not until. As Reagan said; "trust, but verify".....
Re: Urgent: XDs recall...
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:35 am
by GlockDude26
i'm not sure what the protocol for posting links are but the yankee marshall on youtube did a video explaining the reason for the recall. Long story short if the grip safety is not depressed when racking the slide the trigger doesn't reset. that causes the internal mechaism and grip saftey to not engage and if you rack the slide on a live round there's nothing engaged to stop the primer from being struck and sent down range. watch the video for clearer explanation! to me i had two of these and never had a problem because everytime the slide was racked i had a full grip on the gun with the grip safety pressed in, which is basic common sense.... that being said I may try and pick one up on the cheap if someone doesn't want to bother sending it back to SA!
Re: Urgent: XDs recall...
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:08 am
by Teamless
Ultra_Solo_Sig_0904 wrote:f the grip safety is not depressed when racking the slide
You have to depress the grip safety to rack the slide.
So unless there is a defect that allows you to rack the slide without depressing the safety, then it is a moot issue.
Unless that is the actual recall, the slide can be racked without the grip safety depressed
Re: Urgent: XDs recall...
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:47 am
by Seventhsword
I'll be waiting till next spring-summer to send mine in.....
Re: Urgent: XDs recall...
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:21 pm
by Shoot_First
Teamless wrote:Ultra_Solo_Sig_0904 wrote:f the grip safety is not depressed when racking the slide
You have to depress the grip safety to rack the slide.
So unless there is a defect that allows you to rack the slide without depressing the safety, then it is a moot issue.
Unless that is the actual recall, the slide can be racked without the grip safety depressed
Per the video you have to depress the grip safety to rack the slide on an XD or XDm, but not so on the XDs hence the problem where the trigger does not reset resulting in the potential for a slam fire when the slide goes forward. It is an XDs design defect that should have been detected during testing. I hope the "upgrade" does not ruin a fine pistol.
Re: Urgent: XDs recall...
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:58 pm
by Teamless
Shoot_First wrote:but not so on the XDs
Well I guess then my habit that I learned on my XD9, transferred subconsciously to the XDS as I always did depress the safety on the XDS when I racked it.
Re: Urgent: XDs recall...
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:35 pm
by Shoot_First
Teamless wrote:Shoot_First wrote:but not so on the XDs
Well I guess then my habit that I learned on my XD9, transferred subconsciously to the XDS as I always did depress the safety on the XDS when I racked it.
After I viewed the video, I wondered why anyone would grip the pistol without depressing the grip safety. In the video, he holds it by the lower end of the grip below the grip safety. Possible, but not in the usual manner. I have never gripped my XD 45, XDs, or even my 1911s that way to rack the slide.
Waiting on SA's Friday update shortly... hope it is something concrete and positive...getting tired of the marketing fluff.
Re: Urgent: XDs recall...
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:47 pm
by ATDM
Shoot_First wrote:After I viewed the video, I wondered why anyone would grip the pistol without depressing the grip safety. In the video, he holds it by the lower end of the grip below the grip safety. Possible, but not in the usual manner. I have never gripped my XD 45, XDs, or even my 1911s that way to rack the slide.
I
always depress my grip safety, yet
my XD-S slam fired. You can read about the incident and responses here:
http://texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=68869" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Urgent: XDs recall...
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:02 pm
by Shoot_First
ATDM wrote:Shoot_First wrote:After I viewed the video, I wondered why anyone would grip the pistol without depressing the grip safety. In the video, he holds it by the lower end of the grip below the grip safety. Possible, but not in the usual manner. I have never gripped my XD 45, XDs, or even my 1911s that way to rack the slide.
I
always depress my grip safety, yet
my XD-S slam fired. You can read about the incident and responses here:
http://texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=68869" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I recall reading about you killing your mattress. Seems it was ruled a justified shoot. Interesting though that your XDs slam fired WITH the grip safety depressed. Was your trigger finger indexed?
Re: Urgent: XDs recall...
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:19 pm
by Shoot_First
We are pleased to announce that our testing was successful and is complete.
We will receive our first shipment of upgrade parts early next week and will begin shipping upgraded XD-S™ pistols back to our customers the week of October 21 on a first-received/first-upgraded basis.
To ensure our customers are continuously informed of our progress, we will provide website updates every Friday until all of the pistols are back in the hands of their owners.
We are confident that you will be extremely pleased with your upgraded XD-S™ pistol and we wish to express our deep gratitude to all our valued customers who have demonstrated such patience, support and loyalty to Springfield Armory®. As a small token of our thanks, we will be enclosing an XD-S™ extended magazine with X-tension sleeve with each pistol we return.
Today SA update.
Re: Urgent: XDs recall...
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:22 pm
by krieghoff
Looking forward to getting my 2 back and trying them out.
Re: Urgent: XDs recall...
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:25 pm
by NordicTexan
We are pleased to announce that our testing was successful and is complete.
We will receive our first shipment of upgrade parts early next week and will begin shipping upgraded XD-S™ pistols back to our customers the week of October 21 on a first-received/first-upgraded basis.
From the Springfield Recal Update site.
Not much info, but potentially good news.
Re: Urgent: XDs recall...
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:25 pm
by Teamless
There is a bit of info still missing, which I have just asked them about in email:
1 – How long will the repair take, - per gun?
2 – How do we know where our weapon is in the sequence of received guns, 1-500 received, 501-1500 received, etc.
3 – will you have some sort of “tracker” to know if you are currently in repair status of the 1-500, or 1501-3,000, etc?
4- how many have been received so far, this may encourage others who have not returned theirs yet, to know when they feel they should send theirs in, other than “they should do it now”, as many people I know of are keeping theirs until they get a feel for how long it will take.
Re: Urgent: XDs recall...
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:40 pm
by NordicTexan
I would also like a bit more of an explanation of what happened and what was fixed? I mean, obviously I am going to take the gun apart when it gets home and see what they did, so why not just tell me ahead of time? It would get a lot better customer experience if they were a bit more transparent with this. Don't get me wrong, I am glad that there might be light at the end of the tunnel, but I would like a little more info.
Re: Urgent: XDs recall...
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:42 pm
by ATDM
NordicTexan wrote: I would also like a bit more of an explanation of what happened and what was fixed? I mean, obviously I am going to take the gun apart when it gets home and see what they did, so why not just tell me ahead of time? It would get a lot better customer experience if they were a bit more transparent with this. Don't get me wrong, I am glad that there might be light at the end of the tunnel, but I would like a little more info.
They have that info on the FAQ page now (not in the update). It's pretty specific.
http://www.springfieldrecall.com/Recall%20FAQ.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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