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Taypo wrote:

ScooterSissy wrote:

Taypo wrote:Personally, I'm more disappointed in the process than I am in the individual bills. The legislature seems to be a joke right now.

I flip flop on the merits of OC, but I'm in total agreement that campus carry should be available. I also think 30.06 needs to be reexamined to determine some form of requirements for posting. Being uncomfortable with guns shouldn't give a location the ability to deny a right.

I'm a little lost on the last one. If you're talking about a government facility, I agree; but they aren't permitted to do so now by law, some cities/counties just do it in spite of the law. If you're talking about private businesses, I have to disagree. They should be permitted to disallow guns for any reason they choose. I'm a big believer in 2A rights, but I'm also a believer in property rights. I'll let them know my displeasure by using my wallet.

OK, let's take this to an extreme for argument's sake, shall we? If a movie theater/restaurant/convention center posted a sign out front that said "No Whites allowed," do you think that would fly? How about "No Christians?"

If you honestly believe 2A grants everyone the power to carry, then how is it different than racial/religious/orientation discrimination?

Please do keep in mind that I'm very much middle of the road on this, but I'm curious to see where the line is for folks.

nitrogen wrote:We should have attached Open Carry and Campus carry to an anti-abortion bill. We can get THOSE passed pretty reliably.

anygunanywhere wrote:

nitrogen wrote:We should have attached Open Carry and Campus carry to an anti-abortion bill. We can get THOSE passed pretty reliably.

As they should be.

Taypo wrote:

anygunanywhere wrote:

nitrogen wrote:We should have attached Open Carry and Campus carry to an anti-abortion bill. We can get THOSE passed pretty reliably.

As they should be.

Neither the thread nor the forum for this.

Bladed wrote:

LSUTiger wrote:Looks like because of campus carry attached to OC, we won't get OC. At this point I just wish they'd have left OC alone and maybe it would have went through. If campus carry and unrestricted carry were supported it they could have made it on their own.

I personally think that campus carry and unrestricted carry didn't have a chance for whatever reason since the beginning that's why the focus was on OC because it had a chance of passing, not because less effort was given to other things. No reason we should not have been able to get it all, but I digress.

So IMHO whoever attached campus carry to OC to end run the system just did as much damage to OC as OCT, all or nothing means we will likely end up with nothing. So if we want to lament over not having campus carry or unrestricted carry we can rejoice because looks like we won't have open carry either (and it was likely killed by campus carry, yeah!-sarcasm).

Nobody has attached campus carry to open carry. The current holdup of open carry has nothing to do with campus carry.

A-R wrote:


A deal between Texas House and Senate members has revived legislation that would allow concealed handguns to be carried into university classrooms, dorms and buildings.
After passing quickly through the Senate, legislation allowing “campus carry” has been bottled up for the past month in the House, raising questions about its viability with only three full weeks remaining in the legislative session.
Apparently out of options in the House, state Rep. Allen Fletcher, R-Cypress, turned to the Senate, where he said he worked out a deal to have campus carry legislation grafted onto another gun bill as an amendment. The move would allow the new combination bill to return to the House, where approval by the Republican majority is expected.
“If I can get the Senate to send it back over this way, we’ll wrap it up and call it a session,” Fletcher said Wednesday. “It’ll save a lot of time and effort and debate.”
The first step of the plan took place Wednesday evening when Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick referred House Bill 910, allowing those with a concealed handgun license to openly carry a holstered firearm, to the Senate State Affairs Committee, where it must receive a public hearing and a vote before heading to the full Senate.
Fletcher’s campus carry legislation, House Bill 937, has been sitting without action for the past four weeks in the House Calendars Committee, which decides which legislation goes to the floor for a vote. Campus carry language will be added to HB 910 before it leaves the Senate, Fletcher said

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Kkpsiknl wrote:

Taypo wrote:

anygunanywhere wrote:

nitrogen wrote:We should have attached Open Carry and Campus carry to an anti-abortion bill. We can get THOSE passed pretty reliably.

As they should be.

Neither the thread nor the forum for this.

I'll plus 1 that.

mojo84 wrote:Apparently, there is much we aren't being told. I suspect it comes down to egos and Straus playing king.

jerry_r60 wrote:

mojo84 wrote:Apparently, there is much we aren't being told. I suspect it comes down to egos and Straus playing king.

I know he has plenty of power but at least in theory, he should not be able to block HB910 from moving in the Senate. Some on here have questioned why political capital is needed if Republicans hold majorities. Maybe this is why, I guess he could hold other bills hostage if this one moves in the Senate.

mojo84 wrote:

jerry_r60 wrote:

mojo84 wrote:Apparently, there is much we aren't being told. I suspect it comes down to egos and Straus playing king.

I know he has plenty of power but at least in theory, he should not be able to block HB910 from moving in the Senate. Some on here have questioned why political capital is needed if Republicans hold majorities. Maybe this is why, I guess he could hold other bills hostage if this one moves in the Senate.

I also said "egos". It's not just Straus. I think we have some middle age children running the show.

LSUTiger wrote:

gemini wrote:

TexasJohnBoy wrote:

txcharvel wrote:
100% agree. Open carry doesn't 'carry' much weight if I'm still restricted in my daily life of where I can carry. I'll take either, but campus carry needs to get done. Original hb308 should get done.

ditto. Legally carry more places, and campus carry, are much more important to the majority than open carry.

Not a reply to you personally but in general the continued sentiment irks me. I'm sure serious efforts were made for all legislation.

I'm for campus carry and unrestricted carry but are we still crying over this?

mojo84 wrote:

jerry_r60 wrote:

mojo84 wrote:Apparently, there is much we aren't being told. I suspect it comes down to egos and Straus playing king.

I know he has plenty of power but at least in theory, he should not be able to block HB910 from moving in the Senate. Some on here have questioned why political capital is needed if Republicans hold majorities. Maybe this is why, I guess he could hold other bills hostage if this one moves in the Senate.

I also said "egos". It's not just Straus. I think we have some middle age children running the show.