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Re: Today in Trump's new term as President
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:42 am
by Jusme
mojo84 wrote:dale blanker wrote:
Yes, but in politics it's more important to be right than quick. We've seen a number of reversals and chaos in the first few days that gives the impression things are not being well thought and organzied. Learning by trial and error can have a much further reaching effect in politics.
Can you give us some specific examples?
The only things we have seen, are what the MSM reported as chaotic, in their continuing efforts to discredit anything Trump.
Out of 325,000 people who came into the country, only 109 were detained, and after further vetting were allowed to enter. There was only one glitch when officials mistakenly detained those with green cards but that issue was quickly resolved. The MSM, and crybaby democratic senators, are doing everything they can to try and paint this as some type of overreach, while refusing to acknowledge that the list of countries affected, is the exact list that BHO used, based on intel from his security advisers.
Re: Today in Trump's new term as President
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:56 am
by dhoobler
dale blanker wrote:
Yes, but in politics it's more important to be right than quick. We've seen a number of reversals and chaos in the first few days that gives the impression things are not being well thought and organzied. Learning by trial and error can have a much further reaching effect in politics.
In that case, Obama was quick a lot. He was quick about Fast and Furious, he was quick about Benghazi, he was quick about using his pen and his phone, he was quick about denying social security recipeints their Second Amendment rights if they had someone manage their finanances, Obama was quick about giving taxpayer money to Solyndra, only to see it flushed down the toilet, Obama was quick about calling ISIS the JV team, Obama was quick about commuting the sentance of Chelsea Manning, Obama was quick about sending a pallet of unmarked foreign currency to Iran in exchange for hostages, Obama was quick about trading accused deserter Bowe Bergdahl for five terrorist leaders, Obama was quick about adding 9 trillion dollars to the national debt afer he called Bush unpatriotic for adding far less,...
Re: Today in Trump's new term as President
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:09 am
by parabelum
Incorrect DB.
Right now, We the People must hit the leftist idiots with swift hits to counter at least some of the vile perversions towards our Country that was permitted/executed under that charlattan for 8 years.
No more playing nice. And these snowflake fools standing there can either get with it or move. Either way, our National identity is coming back.
Re: Today in Trump's new term as President
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:19 am
by Bitter Clinger
mojo84 wrote:dale blanker wrote:
Yes, but in politics it's more important to be right than quick. We've seen a number of reversals and chaos in the first few days that gives the impression things are not being well thought and organzied. Learning by trial and error can have a much further reaching effect in politics.
Can you give us some specific examples?
Dale enjoys the gift of selective memory. He completely ignores the fact that neither of the key Cabinet Members needed to administer this policy (Sec State and Atty Gen) correctly have been confirmed, solely due to the juvenile delay tactics of Chuck "Liberal Tears" Schumer. But hey, as we already know, facts are simply inconvenient details.
Re: Today in Trump's new term as President
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:27 am
by mojo84
Jusme wrote:mojo84 wrote:dale blanker wrote:
Yes, but in politics it's more important to be right than quick. We've seen a number of reversals and chaos in the first few days that gives the impression things are not being well thought and organzied. Learning by trial and error can have a much further reaching effect in politics.
Can you give us some specific examples?
The only things we have seen, are what the MSM reported as chaotic, in their continuing efforts to discredit anything Trump.
Out of 325,000 people who came into the country, only 109 were detained, and after further vetting were allowed to enter. There was only one glitch when officials mistakenly detained those with green cards but that issue was quickly resolved. The MSM, and crybaby democratic senators, are doing everything they can to try and paint this as some type of overreach, while refusing to acknowledge that the list of countries affected, is the exact list that BHO used, based on intel from his security advisers.
I understand that. I want to know what Dale is talking about. He's the one that made broad sweeping statements that I cannot reconcile with facts.
Re: Today in Trump's new term as President
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:00 am
by Skiprr
POTUS meeting with CEOs from big pharma right now. The focus on business leaders roundtables so soon is, to say the least refreshing. For eight years it's been the Beltway attitude that government creates jobs and wealth. Now it's clear that someone understands that government consumes wealth, not create it.
Evidently, POTUS has also signed another executive order this morning involving cyber security. No details yet; watch for specifics a little later this morning.
Confirmation hearings started again today. Twelve days into Obama's term in 2009, he had 11 of his 15 cabinet secretary positions approved and in place. President Trump? Three; one just approved this morning, Dept. of the Interior I believe. I think his rapid firing of Sally Yates was about her refusal to do her job, but also a round across the bow at democrats who are doing everything they can to slow down cabinet approvals. Admittedly, the dems may be needing daily Dramamine to keep up with the atypical movement, but they'd better get used to it.
BTW:
Chuckles Schumer: "Sally Yates was a profile in courage. A profile in courage."
Key word, Chuckles: "was."
Re: Today in Trump's new term as President
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:06 am
by mojo84
That's good news about him meeting with pharma. Hopefully he is hammering them for gouging the American people and insurance companies with unreasonable pricing. Hope he also understands the government will have to back off some of their ridiculously costly rules and regulations.
Re: Today in Trump's new term as President
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:13 am
by Skiprr
mojo84 wrote:That's good news about him meeting with pharma. Hopefully he is hammering them for gouging the American people and insurance companies with unreasonable pricing. Hope he also understands the government will have to back off some of their ridiculously costly rules and regulations.
Agreed. The press were excused from this meeting immediately following attendee introductions. From the president's standpoint, my bet is this serves a double-barreled strategic purpose: gain support by mutual understanding of how regulations and the business environment can be improved to lower cost and promote development, and to set the stage for negotiations about one of the main cost elements in the formation of an Obamacare replacement and control of Medicare/Medicaid expenses.
Re: Today in Trump's new term as President
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:55 am
by TexasJohnBoy
Senate Dems boycotting HHS, Treasury nominees... headline just popped up on CNN.
Re: Today in Trump's new term as President
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:01 am
by mojo84
TexasJohnBoy wrote:Senate Dems boycotting HHS, Treasury nominees... headline just popped up on CNN.
Funny how they don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot.
Re: Today in Trump's new term as President
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:03 am
by Skiprr
TexasJohnBoy wrote:Senate Dems boycotting HHS, Treasury nominees... headline just popped up on CNN.
Yep. Looks like there will be no vote--again--on those positions. The committee for Sessions is supposed to vote shortly; we'll see what happens there.
Dems are also all but openly admitting that they don't care
who POTUS nominates for SCOTUS tonight, they will throw tantrums and do anything else they can do to oppose him or her. President Trump could nominate the Dalai Lama and the Dems will try to block it. It won't be about about the quality and credentials of the judge, it will be purely partisan because it's DJT's nomination. Disgraceful.
Re: Today in Trump's new term as President
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:16 am
by Bitter Clinger
mojo84 wrote:That's good news about him meeting with pharma. Hopefully he is hammering them for gouging the American people and insurance companies with unreasonable pricing. Hope he also understands the government will have to back off some of their ridiculously costly rules and regulations.
Gonna disagree with you on this one. The FDA is the problem, not the Pharma companies. The FDA has driven more US jobs offshore than almost any other over-reaching Federal Agency, except maybe the EPA. And the insurance companioes never loose either.
I am hopeful that Pharma can sucessfully present the case for reduced FDA meddling and for getting the insurnace companies OUT of medical care! But, hey, that's just my two cents...

Re: Today in Trump's new term as President
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:18 am
by Bitter Clinger
mojo84 wrote:Jusme wrote:mojo84 wrote:dale blanker wrote:
Yes, but in politics it's more important to be right than quick. We've seen a number of reversals and chaos in the first few days that gives the impression things are not being well thought and organzied. Learning by trial and error can have a much further reaching effect in politics.
Can you give us some specific examples?
The only things we have seen, are what the MSM reported as chaotic, in their continuing efforts to discredit anything Trump.
Out of 325,000 people who came into the country, only 109 were detained, and after further vetting were allowed to enter. There was only one glitch when officials mistakenly detained those with green cards but that issue was quickly resolved. The MSM, and crybaby democratic senators, are doing everything they can to try and paint this as some type of overreach, while refusing to acknowledge that the list of countries affected, is the exact list that BHO used, based on intel from his security advisers.
I understand that. I want to know what Dale is talking about. He's the one that made broad sweeping statements that I cannot reconcile with facts.
Maybe what Dale meant is that Barack Hussein Obama caused the refugee problem with his ill conceived "red line" posturing and his gun running to ISIS?
Re: Today in Trump's new term as President
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:26 am
by mojo84
Bitter Clinger wrote:mojo84 wrote:That's good news about him meeting with pharma. Hopefully he is hammering them for gouging the American people and insurance companies with unreasonable pricing. Hope he also understands the government will have to back off some of their ridiculously costly rules and regulations.
Gonna disagree with you on this one. The FDA is the problem, not the Pharma companies. The FDA has driven more US jobs offshore than almost any other over-reaching Federal Agency, except maybe the EPA. And the insurance companioes never loose either.
I am hopeful that Pharma can sucessfully present the case for reduced FDA meddling and for getting the insurnace companies OUT of medical care! But, hey, that's just my two cents...

I promise you, both, FDA and pharma, are the problem. FDA creates much of the problem and pharma uses it as a license to steal. Proof is in the price disparity from country to country. When companies by our of patent generics to monopolize the med and then back up the price by 100's%, they are gouging.
Here's an example. My generic blood pressure med I got last week was $50 for a three month supply. I saw this week the price jumped up to $142-$260 depending on the pharmacy. I bet they increased the price so the could lower it back down after the meeting with Trump and say they cooperated. We are being scammed.
Re: Today in Trump's new term as President
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:29 am
by LucasMcCain