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Re: Corona Virus (COVID-19)( SARS-CoV-2) from China: Its going to be bad.

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 5:58 pm
by jerry_r60
flechero wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 5:32 pm well crud! I managed to shut the tab I was in and lost the my links and comments. Not spending another 30 minutes recreating itall so here's the short version. Not all from same sources. SOme of what I said are from conversations with Dr. friends (and they cite sources) but I can't recall all of them.

google reinfection rates and then breakthrough rates. lots of commentary there and the numbers are much lower for reinfection in what I have read.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanc ... 9/fulltext

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspec ... fection-84

https://www.statnews.com/2021/04/07/cov ... seem-rare/

https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/08/c ... n-tracker/ not a scientific source- just a reinfection tracking page

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/h ... -data.html

I know that nothing I post is definitive and for every study that says one thing, you can find a counter point.... I really miss the days of being able to trust science and medical info! :tiphat:
The CDC link I posted above shows recent efficacy in the real world is matching what was seen in the trials at 94%.

If I'm reading what you have here in the CDC vaccine breakthrough data correctly, while they admit there is likely underreporting, the data shows: 9245 breakthrough cases out of 95,000,000 vaccinated people. 9245 / 95,000,000 = breakthrough rate of: .000973 or 0.0973% about 1 tenth of a percent.

Re: Corona Virus (COVID-19)( SARS-CoV-2) from China: Its going to be bad.

Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 8:04 am
by Paladin

Re: Corona Virus (COVID-19)( SARS-CoV-2) from China: Its going to be bad.

Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 4:08 pm
by ELB
philip964 wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 5:18 pm So did Fauci plan a surprise for Trump in 2017?
That's interesting, especially considering the "research" that Fauci shipped off to the Wuhan lab.

Covid Charts Quiz

Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 1:43 pm
by Grayling813
https://www.covidchartsquiz.com/
Welcome to the COVID Charts Quiz!

In 2020 people were told that business closures, stay-at-home orders, lockdowns, and mask mandates were necessary to slow the spread of SARS-CoV-2.

Some people expected that places where these measures were absent or implemented half-heartedly would have drastically worse results.

With more than a year of these measures behind us, it's time to evaluate the results.

Preliminary academic studies have already been published, and they deserve our attention. This quiz is intended for the layman, because if these radical measures were truly justified the results should be clear and unambiguous in the data.
https://www.covidchartsquiz.com/

Re: Corona Virus (COVID-19)( SARS-CoV-2) from China: Its going to be bad.

Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 1:24 pm
by philip964
https://apple.news/A4cAJvjGrTRGHlEVbDlXV5Q

Dr. Fauci is not sure Covid formed naturally and wants a thorough investigation of the origins.

Don’t make me laugh!

Re: Corona Virus (COVID-19)( SARS-CoV-2) from China: Its going to be bad.

Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 11:26 pm
by philip964
https://www.wsj.com/articles/intelligen ... mod=RSSMSN

3 Wuhan lab employees deathly ill in 2019. Smoking gun.

Re: Corona Virus (COVID-19)( SARS-CoV-2) from China: Its going to be bad.

Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 11:31 pm
by Beiruty
philip964 wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 1:24 pm https://apple.news/A4cAJvjGrTRGHlEVbDlXV5Q

Dr. Fauci is not sure Covid formed naturally and wants a thorough investigation of the origins.

Don’t make me laugh!
I was banned by FB for posting an article on the origin of COVID-19, I reposted today and challenged FB censorship team to ban me again

Re: Corona Virus (COVID-19)( SARS-CoV-2) from China: Its going to be bad.

Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 7:04 am
by striker55
I quit FB years ago when lawyers against my wife in a legal action had screenshots of her FB pages.

Re: Corona Virus (COVID-19)( SARS-CoV-2) from China: Its going to be bad.

Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 7:40 am
by 03Lightningrocks
striker55 wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 7:04 am I quit FB years ago when lawyers against my wife in a legal action had screenshots of her FB pages.
People lose their jobs and even have trouble getting a job over FB posts. It is ridiculous.

Re: Corona Virus (COVID-19)( SARS-CoV-2) from China: Its going to be bad.

Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 7:54 am
by Paladin
FB is awful. Some employers will check FB and if you have a photo of you with a gun will not hire you.

Re: Corona Virus (COVID-19)( SARS-CoV-2) from China: Its going to be bad.

Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 8:21 am
by Paladin
Senator Tom Cotton: Fauci Is "Playing Word Games; Trying To Cover Tracks"
“It is imperative that the NIH come clean and tell us exactly what happened,” Cotton said, adding “Well, I think that a lot of these so-called experts and scientific bureaucrats are trying to cover their tracks.”

Re: Corona Virus (COVID-19)( SARS-CoV-2) from China: Its going to be bad.

Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 8:47 am
by 03Lightningrocks
Paladin wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 8:21 am Senator Tom Cotton: Fauci Is "Playing Word Games; Trying To Cover Tracks"
“It is imperative that the NIH come clean and tell us exactly what happened,” Cotton said, adding “Well, I think that a lot of these so-called experts and scientific bureaucrats are trying to cover their tracks.”
It is from the democrat play book. They could not blame Trump if people were blaming the Chinese government. They knew it all along. People would have rallied around the president against China.

Re: Corona Virus (COVID-19)( SARS-CoV-2) from China: Its going to be bad.

Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 9:06 am
by philip964
https://thefederalist.com/2021/05/24/ex ... and-facts/

Senator Tom Cotton trashed by the media for months about his “fake news big lie”, but very plausible belief the the Wuhan Lab was behind the virus.

Re: Corona Virus (COVID-19)( SARS-CoV-2) from China: Its going to be bad.

Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 11:02 am
by Ruark
It's beginning to look ENTIRELY possible that China deliberately created and released this virus towards a geopolitical objective, and it appears to be succeeding.

Despite having a population 5 times that of the U.S. (1.5 billion), China has only recorded 4600 Covid deaths.

There are NO colonies of the bat species that carries this virus anywhere near Wuhan, nor are there any for sale in the infamous Wuhan market. However, the Wuhan labs WERE using this species in their bio-weapons development.

Hitler tried to conquer the world using bullets. Now China is trying to conquer the world using a virus.

https://www.businesstoday.in/current/ec ... 38792.html

Re: Corona Virus (COVID-19)( SARS-CoV-2) from China: Its going to be bad.

Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 12:01 pm
by Paladin
Ruark wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 11:02 am It's beginning to look ENTIRELY possible that China deliberately created and released this virus towards a geopolitical objective, and it appears to be succeeding.

Despite having a population 5 times that of the U.S. (1.5 billion), China has only recorded 4600 Covid deaths.

There are NO colonies of the bat species that carries this virus anywhere near Wuhan, nor are there any for sale in the infamous Wuhan market. However, the Wuhan labs WERE using this species in their bio-weapons development.

Hitler tried to conquer the world using bullets. Now China is trying to conquer the world using a virus.

https://www.businesstoday.in/current/ec ... 38792.html
"...this document is one of the 'smoking gun' that can prove China has a long-term programme of non-traditional bio-weapons and (plans) to use it to conquer the whole world,"
Good stuff! Would like to see the document in question.

Regardless of what is being said by some people, there have been a ton of excess deaths in America since COVID hit here. Between the disease and the reaction to it lots of Americans have died.