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Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:03 pm
by chasfm11
puma guy wrote:
Unfortunately from my experience many prosecutors are not interested in justice. The only truth that interests them is what may support their case and they're willing to obfuscate any thing that would help prove innocence. It's about the win. Of course defense lawyers try to keep any thing that would point to guilt under the radar as well, but prosecutors have much more information and evidence. It's a game of who can use parts of the truth to the best advantage, not the whole truth.
I get that. But if the data from the phone was tampered with (and I use those words carefully), it takes the obfuscation game to a whole new level. It is one thing to present the facts in a favorable light and another to mechanically alter a piece of evidence. At last to me.
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:20 pm
by The Annoyed Man
VMI77 wrote:The Annoyed Man wrote:VMI77 wrote:philip964 wrote:Why would the prosecutors not want to play fair. Are they attempting to railroad the defendant? Are we not after the truth?
You're kidding, right?
They have been railroading Zimmerman since day one. Just a few days ago, a story was "leaked" about Zimmerman supposedly being a child-molester, a charge against which there is no defense because there are no other witnesses than the person making the accusation, who claims to be the victim. On the one hand, you've got the prosecutor's office asking the judge to issue a gag order against the defense so that the defense may not make any public statements in their client's favor, and on the other hand, you've got people sympathetic to the prosecution dragging Zimmerman's name through the mud with unprovable and unsubstantiated charges. This is a travesty against justice. This case would have never lasted this long in Texas, and it would have probably gone in the accused's favor. Once reliably conservative Florida is no longer so (thanks to Obama's grassroots campaign support (i.e. SEIU, ACORN, et al), and the bankruptcy of hard leftist ideology has polluted Florida's political environment. That is the ONLY reason—that and flat out racist race-baiting african-american attorneys who have no official capacity but who are "consulted" by the prosecutor's office—is why this case lingers on.
Maybe my remark wasn't clear. By "you're kidding" I meant: why would the prosecutor play fair; yes, it's a straight up railroad job; and no, they don't care about the truth at all, only the politics.
Sorry about the confusion.....I was actually responding to philip964's post. Sorry about that.
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:57 pm
by philip964
They haven't blamed him for the school shooting .. yet.
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:10 pm
by philip964
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government ... ma-bullied" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Zimmerman's brother and family in California in hiding due to being a target. No love for Obama.
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:10 am
by philip964
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/loc ... 9597.story" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Trayvon Martin's girlfriend was caught in a lie under oath.
This is the prosecution's star witness.
Question was asked if she would be charged with perjury. Interesting question since George Zimmerman's wife has been charged with perjury for lying under oath during the bail hearing.
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:42 am
by mamabearCali
I imagine this is just the first domino to fall. The states narrative is about to pop like a balloon.
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:06 am
by K.Mooneyham
They should have come to Texas. Seriously speaking, who would have noticed a few regular Hispanic folks here? Especially with so many people coming to Texas from other states. In Texas, they could easily arm themselves against troublemakers, AND have the right to defend themselves against said troublemakers if it unfortunately came to that.
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:15 am
by baldeagle
Interesting double standard. Prosecutors couldn't wait to charge Shellie Zimmerman with perjury, but their star witness? Well, that's another matter entirely.
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:23 am
by RX8er
baldeagle wrote:Interesting double standard. Prosecutors couldn't wait to charge Shellie Zimmerman with perjury, but their star witness? Well, that's another matter entirely.
I say we gather a bunch of people and start protesting. This is a travesty of justice.
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:09 pm
by tbrown
baldeagle wrote:Interesting double standard. Prosecutors couldn't wait to charge Shellie Zimmerman with perjury, but their star witness? Well, that's another matter entirely.
Of course it is. The prosecution didn't coach Mrs. Zimmerman to lie.
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:25 am
by 03Lightningrocks
I'll say it. Reverse discrimination and a nation of sheep being led to the slaughter. Because we fear being labeled that which we all know is true to our nature as human beings, we sit by and allow this kind of travesty! When do we say, "ENOUGH!"?
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:30 pm
by VoiceofReason
RX8er wrote:baldeagle wrote:Interesting double standard. Prosecutors couldn't wait to charge Shellie Zimmerman with perjury, but their star witness? Well, that's another matter entirely.
I say we gather a bunch of people and start protesting. This is a travesty of justice.
Zimmerman is the victim of
political persecution. There is no way the man or his family can have any sort of normal life after this.
Even if justice is done in the court and he is found not guilty, there will be demonstrations and/or riots.
I look for the persecutor to threaten to go for the max penalty against his wife (five years and $5000.00) unless he pleads guilty to a lesser charge. This is the only way the persecutor and judge can get out of the situation they allowed themselves to get railroaded into.
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:15 am
by Dadtodabone
If Mr. Zimmerman is found not guilty in his trial, will the State of Florida provide some form of protection for him and his family? What about the Feds, could they petition the Marshall's Service for entry into the Witness Security Program or the like?
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:36 am
by jmra
Dadtodabone wrote:philip964 wrote:could they petition the Marshall's Service for entry into the Witness Security Program or the like?
The federal program only protects witnesses cooperating with federal DAs.
Some interesting facts: 95% of the people who have participated in the program are criminals. No one in the history of the program has been harmed while in the program. 17% of those in the program return to crime compared to 41% coming out of prison.
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:23 pm
by puma guy
jmra wrote:Dadtodabone wrote:philip964 wrote:could they petition the Marshall's Service for entry into the Witness Security Program or the like?
The federal program only protects witnesses cooperating with federal DAs.
Some interesting facts: 95% of the people who have participated in the program are criminals. No one in the history of the program has been harmed while in the program. 17% of those in the program return to crime compared to 41% coming out of prison.
Maybe it would help if the POTUS says, "If I had an Hispanic son, he'd be just like George Zimmerman."