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Re: Link to Today's TX Senate Hearing On SB11 and SB 17 (2-1
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:45 pm
by CoffeeNut
Dave09 wrote:Gotta say it was definitely interesting watching one of these. I have never actually watched this process before so thank you for posting that link.
It sounded like most of the teachers, that testified, expect their chl students to turn the classroom into a blood bath...
Those fully grown adults just can't handle the stresses of grades, pimples, the other sex and GUNS!

Re: Link to Today's TX Senate Hearing On SB11 and SB 17 (2-1
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:54 pm
by ScooterSissy
Both bills passed committee, both by a 7-2 vote.
Re: Link to Today's TX Senate Hearing On SB11 and SB 17 (2-1
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:54 pm
by Keith B
Both pass out of committee with the amendment on open carry that it must stay concealed on college campuses.

Re: Link to Today's TX Senate Hearing On SB11 and SB 17 (2-1
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:55 pm
by mojo84
I can live with the substitute bill.
Excited they got out of committee.
Re: Link to Today's TX Senate Hearing On SB11 and SB 17 (2-1
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:55 pm
by CoffeeNut
Keith B wrote:Both pass out of committee with the amendment on open carry that it must stay concealed on college campuses.

Woohoo!
Re: Link to Today's TX Senate Hearing On SB11 and SB 17 (2-1
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:56 pm
by PBR
so with both passing what is next step and how long for it? sadly i'm not so up on the steps and everything.
Re: Link to Today's TX Senate Hearing On SB11 and SB 17 (2-1
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:57 pm
by birdman253
Charles L. Cotton wrote:birdman253 wrote:Due to work issues, I was only able to listen to the last 45 mins or so. Those of you that were able to listen to most of the hearing, what are your opinions as to which way the wind is blowing?
Both bills will be voted out of committee favorably. Most of the testimony was what one would expect with a few good surprises. There were no bad surprises, because we knew the dire predictions we heard in 1995 and in 2007 would be repeated.
Chas.
Thank you!
Re: Link to Today's TX Senate Hearing On SB11 and SB 17 (2-1
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:59 pm
by Ruark
PBR wrote:so with both passing what is next step and how long for it? sadly i'm not so up on the steps and everything.
I'd like to know the next steps, too, and when they'll happen. Also, does this mean that the TOC, CAGI, Grisham/Watkins bunch is out of the picture, or can they still make trouble?
Re: Link to Today's TX Senate Hearing On SB11 and SB 17 (2-1
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:02 pm
by locke_n_load
PBR wrote:so with both passing what is next step and how long for it? sadly i'm not so up on the steps and everything.
It will go to the senate floor for a vote, along with the amendments. They have a month I believe.
I sure hope that the retention holster amendment flops, as well as the visual identification, and the holster placement requirements.
I am really hoping that someone adds an amendment that they can't just ask for handgun license if you are OCing, but I didn't hear much support from the senators for that to be removed though.

Re: Link to Today's TX Senate Hearing On SB11 and SB 17 (2-1
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:02 pm
by RHenriksen
Wonderful news. Confident it'll clear the senate; the House is the big wild card.
Re: Link to Today's TX Senate Hearing On SB11 and SB 17 (2-1
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:39 pm
by v7a
When the bills are eventually passed by the full Senate and head over to the House, do they go first to a House committee or do they head directly to the House floor?
Re: Link to Today's TX Senate Hearing On SB11 and SB 17 (2-1
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:53 pm
by android
Charles L. Cotton wrote:birdman253 wrote:Due to work issues, I was only able to listen to the last 45 mins or so. Those of you that were able to listen to most of the hearing, what are your opinions as to which way the wind is blowing?
Both bills will be voted out of committee favorably. Most of the testimony was what one would expect with a few good surprises. There were no bad surprises, because we knew the dire predictions we heard in 1995 and in 2007 would be repeated.
Chas.
Several police chiefs also testified against the measures, saying they would strain law enforcement and make it difficult to identify perpetrators at the scene of a crime.
Open carry would create a “huge fiscal burden” on police departments, said Chief Art Acevedo of Austin, both in the additional training needed to educate officers and resources needed to respond to increased calls involving firearms.
Same old tired rubbish from the police. This hasn't been a problem for the last 20 years, why would allowing CC on campuses that are a tiny percentage of all the places it is already allowed all of the sudden create this huge burden?
Re: Link to Today's TX Senate Hearing On SB11 and SB 17 (2-1
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:05 pm
by chuck j
I watched it all the way through , the anti bill folks got a bit redundant to listen to but you could see that there was more than enough support . I have more hope for the bills than I did only yesterday . It was interesting .
Re: Link to Today's TX Senate Hearing On SB11 and SB 17 (2-1
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:44 pm
by The Annoyed Man
ScooterSissy wrote:Both bills passed committee, both by a 7-2 vote.
Didn't SB11 pass with an amendment from Zefferini?
And Chief Acevido was a real piece of work. He told so many lies it got hard to pick out the truths from what he said. Maybe there were none?
Re: Link to Today's TX Senate Hearing On SB11 and SB 17 (2-1
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:48 pm
by SewTexas
The Annoyed Man wrote:ScooterSissy wrote:Both bills passed committee, both by a 7-2 vote.
Didn't SB11 pass with an amendment from Zefferini?
And Chief Acevido was a real piece of work. He told so many lies it got hard to pick out the truths from what he said. Maybe there were none?
someone said earlier that they didn't wait for her amendments.
and I'm also a little confused, Dan Patrick sent out a message that the bills passed with a 7-0 vote.