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suthdj wrote:Maybe everybody should print out the CHL hand book highlight the spot that pertain to this and mail/email it to the RRPD police chief and/or mayor. It is silent, non-aggressive and to the point. Just a thought.



Mailing Address
Bryan H. Williams
Office of the Chief of Police
2701 N. Mays
Round Rock, Texas 78665

bwilliams@round-rock.tx.us


Mailing Address:
Round Rock Police Department
Office of Internal Affairs
2701 N. Mays
Round Rock, Texas 78665

ggolden@round-rock.tx.us

Complaints against a Round Rock police officer may be made by phone, by letter, or in person. In order to file a complaint you may contact Sergeant Grant Golden or the Police Supervisor on duty. The address and telephone number for making complaints is:

Round Rock Police
Internal Affairs Office
2701 N. Mays
Round Rock, TX 78665
Main number (512) 218-5500
Internal Affairs Office (512) 218-5535

The problem I see you having in Round Rock is that many of the citizens are Kalifornia immigrants. They very well may applaud the officers for violating your rights.

PeteCamp wrote:

The problem I see you having in Round Rock is that many of the citizens are Kalifornia immigrants. They very well may applaud the officers for violating your rights.

I guess I'm confused. Most of California wants all laws involving crime repealed. Simple citation for marijuana etc. How is it that immigrants want the return of the Gestapo? I guess I'm just too simple.

Sorry ... didn't want to off track the thread. Talking to the Mayor and Chief would be excellent ideas - as would sending them copies of the applicable laws.

sjfcontrol wrote:the "Kalifornia" business is highly exaggerated.

sjfcontrol wrote:the "Kalifornia" business is highly exaggerated.

03Lightningrocks wrote:

sjfcontrol wrote:the "Kalifornia" business is highly exaggerated.

Just for the record, nothing about Kalifornia and it's socialists ways is exaggerated. I will admit that not all Kalifornians are socialists, but don't even think about trying to argue that Kalifornia is somehow moderate.

sjfcontrol wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:

sjfcontrol wrote:the "Kalifornia" business is highly exaggerated.

Just for the record, nothing about Kalifornia and it's socialists ways is exaggerated. I will admit that not all Kalifornians are socialists, but don't even think about trying to argue that Kalifornia is somehow moderate.

NO -- that wasn't what I was trying to say. I was talking about the implication that all Californian's (and especially EX-Californians) want to eliminate guns (and other liberal policies). California as a whole has not been moderate for a number of years (decades?). However, at one time -- like when I move there in the late '70's -- there was a republican governor (I don't count Arnie as republican), and the influence of the LA hispanics/illegals and SF Fruits/Nuts were outweighed by the far more conservative rest of the state.

03Lightningrocks wrote:

sjfcontrol wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:

sjfcontrol wrote:the "Kalifornia" business is highly exaggerated.

Just for the record, nothing about Kalifornia and it's socialists ways is exaggerated. I will admit that not all Kalifornians are socialists, but don't even think about trying to argue that Kalifornia is somehow moderate.

NO -- that wasn't what I was trying to say. I was talking about the implication that all Californian's (and especially EX-Californians) want to eliminate guns (and other liberal policies). California as a whole has not been moderate for a number of years (decades?). However, at one time -- like when I move there in the late '70's -- there was a republican governor (I don't count Arnie as republican), and the influence of the LA hispanics/illegals and SF Fruits/Nuts were outweighed by the far more conservative rest of the state.

While I agree that not ALL are wanting to bring their socialist ways to areas they move, many of them do. I have met and known many Kalifornians and in just about every case, they believed their mission in life was to educate poor dumb Texans. They came off as if they had special twinkling dust that made them more enlightned than the rest of us. Now you may be different, but if you ever made this comment, "In Kalifornia, We did it this way". You may not.

sjfcontrol wrote: And I know MANY who, like myself, moved out to Kali to get away from the increasingly socialist tendencies.

03Lightningrocks wrote:[
Some of the stories he tells of the "political correctness" are just frustrating to hear. The labor laws he was having to supervise under made getting the project done near impossible.

Drewthetexan wrote:

handog wrote: The waiting room in the Government building has a one way mirror with a security guard behind it. I noticed it when I went back to photograph the non 30.06 on the doors. My CHG was at 4 O'clock when it was discovered. I was sitting in a fold out chair and the Security guard had plenty of time to stare at my back where the CHG may have been printing. The rat theory has come up here before but I highly doubt it.

I'm curious, if they had seen it while you were there, why they would wait until you left to confront you about it.

PappaGun wrote:

Drewthetexan wrote:

handog wrote: The waiting room in the Government building has a one way mirror with a security guard behind it. I noticed it when I went back to photograph the non 30.06 on the doors. My CHG was at 4 O'clock when it was discovered. I was sitting in a fold out chair and the Security guard had plenty of time to stare at my back where the CHG may have been printing. The rat theory has come up here before but I highly doubt it.

I'm curious, if they had seen it while you were there, why they would wait until you left to confront you about it.

I was wondering the same thing.
If an officer really thought there was a danger presented in any given situation, I have always assumed they would handle it immediately to prevent any escalation.
In this case, he allowed to get in a vehicle which itself could have been used as a weapon or could have been loaded with weapons or alot of dangerous things that he and/or others then would have been subjected to.
I believe he handled this situation poorly from the begining.
It sems to me he is in need of some retraining.

03Lightningrocks wrote: They would want to wait until he was out of the building to minimize the risk of innocent bystanders getting shot. For what ever reason, they severely over reacted. They probably had him pegged as a mass shooter. He is probably lucky he didn't put his hand near the weapon. Barney Fife may have shot him from the other side of that mirror.

03Lightningrocks wrote:

PappaGun wrote:

Drewthetexan wrote:

handog wrote: The waiting room in the Government building has a one way mirror with a security guard behind it. I noticed it when I went back to photograph the non 30.06 on the doors. My CHG was at 4 O'clock when it was discovered. I was sitting in a fold out chair and the Security guard had plenty of time to stare at my back where the CHG may have been printing. The rat theory has come up here before but I highly doubt it.

I'm curious, if they had seen it while you were there, why they would wait until you left to confront you about it.

I was wondering the same thing.
If an officer really thought there was a danger presented in any given situation, I have always assumed they would handle it immediately to prevent any escalation.
In this case, he allowed to get in a vehicle which itself could have been used as a weapon or could have been loaded with weapons or alot of dangerous things that he and/or others then would have been subjected to.
I believe he handled this situation poorly from the begining.
It sems to me he is in need of some retraining.

03Lightningrocks wrote: They would want to wait until he was out of the building to minimize the risk of innocent bystanders getting shot. For what ever reason, they severely over reacted. They probably had him pegged as a mass shooter. He is probably lucky he didn't put his hand near the weapon. Barney Fife may have shot him from the other side of that mirror.

PappaGun wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:

PappaGun wrote:

Drewthetexan wrote:

handog wrote: The waiting room in the Government building has a one way mirror with a security guard behind it. I noticed it when I went back to photograph the non 30.06 on the doors. My CHG was at 4 O'clock when it was discovered. I was sitting in a fold out chair and the Security guard had plenty of time to stare at my back where the CHG may have been printing. The rat theory has come up here before but I highly doubt it.

I'm curious, if they had seen it while you were there, why they would wait until you left to confront you about it.

I was wondering the same thing.
If an officer really thought there was a danger presented in any given situation, I have always assumed they would handle it immediately to prevent any escalation.
In this case, he allowed to get in a vehicle which itself could have been used as a weapon or could have been loaded with weapons or alot of dangerous things that he and/or others then would have been subjected to.
I believe he handled this situation poorly from the begining.
It sems to me he is in need of some retraining.

03Lightningrocks wrote: They would want to wait until he was out of the building to minimize the risk of innocent bystanders getting shot. For what ever reason, they severely over reacted. They probably had him pegged as a mass shooter. He is probably lucky he didn't put his hand near the weapon. Barney Fife may have shot him from the other side of that mirror.

OK.

So I guess "Security Guard" says it all.