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The Annoyed Man wrote:

Dadtodabone wrote:

urnoodle wrote:YOU'INS..... what is the origin of that I must ask?! Made popular by those I work with in Missouri. Is it really difficult to say "all of you". I'd even take a y'all at least I understand what is being said.

Probably shares the etymology of the beloved Pittsburgh regional dialect "Yinz" or "Yunz".
You might review the info provided at http://www.pittsburghese.com/ to aid your understanding of the Irish/Scot/English/Appalachian hybrid pronunciations and usage. Always good for a laugh and will allow you to order at Primanti Brothers http://primantibros.com/home.html before a "Stillers" game without drawing undue attention.

I'm reading a fascinating book right now called "Black Rednecks & White Liberals" by Thomas Sowell, and he addresses the distinctive patterns of southern speech, as well as southern culture, and he traces it back to the specific regions the white settlers came from in Scotland, Ireland, and the British midlands; as well as, WHEN they came from there....because other white northern settlers, coming from the same regions but at a different time in Britain/Scotland's history lack those traits......and how those cultural traits were transferred to the slave population they oversaw. He denies the influence of African culture as having anything more than a passing affect on blacks because, by the time of the revolution, the vast majority of slaves in the U.S. had been born here. Even in the minutiae, things like jumping over a broom handle as part of a black wedding ceremony was handed down from white Scottish immigrants, where the practice was an old pagan practice, predating Christianity. I could go on, but it is a really interesting book.

Dave2 wrote:Oh, I forgot one even bigger... "The unthinkable"... Well obviously somebody thought of it, otherwise we wouldn't be here talking about it.

Dadtodabone wrote:

Dave2 wrote:Oh, I forgot one even bigger... "The unthinkable"... Well obviously somebody thought of it, otherwise we wouldn't be here talking about it.

Quite a few of the words with un, in, im, prefixes break down as per your example.

Abraham wrote:Rather than employing the root word it seems most would rather add "ness".

As an example, the word "Precision" is avoided and instead we see or hear "Preciseness" and there are many other examples...

Yes, preciseness is a word, but c'mon adding "ness" rather than using the proper word for the situation is lazy...

Dave2 wrote:

Dadtodabone wrote:

Dave2 wrote:Oh, I forgot one even bigger... "The unthinkable"... Well obviously somebody thought of it, otherwise we wouldn't be here talking about it.

Quite a few of the words with un, in, im, prefixes break down as per your example.

I'm not entirely following you, but I'm sure those annoy me as well.

OH! Has anyone mentioned flammable/inflammable yet? I don't care what "inflammable" means in latin, because I only speak english where the "in" prefix means "not", so "inflammable" means "NOT flammable" <waves two canes at someone and mutters something about lawns>

Dadtodabone wrote:

urnoodle wrote:YOU'INS..... what is the origin of that I must ask?! Made popular by those I work with in Missouri. Is it really difficult to say "all of you". I'd even take a y'all at least I understand what is being said.

Probably shares the etymology of the beloved Pittsburgh regional dialect "Yinz" or "Yunz".
You might review the info provided at http://www.pittsburghese.com/ to aid your understanding of the Irish/Scot/English/Appalachian hybrid pronunciations and usage. Always good for a laugh and will allow you to order at Primanti Brothers http://primantibros.com/home.html before a "Stillers" game without drawing undue attention.

george wrote:athleticism just does something to my ears when I hear it.