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Re: HB1911 Com Substitute

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 3:14 pm
by bblhd672
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
Calendars does not meet every day, so even a tag was only for 24 - 72 hours, a single "tag" would last a week under a normal schedule. Also, you assume that each member can only tag a bill once.

Chas.
So it sounds like the only method of keeping things going is that if Dem's tag all the Repub's bills, then vice versa happens and no bills advance?

You don't kill all my bills and I won't kill all of yours.. :rules:

Re: HB1911 Com Substitute

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 3:27 pm
by ScottDLS
bblhd672 wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
Calendars does not meet every day, so even a tag was only for 24 - 72 hours, a single "tag" would last a week under a normal schedule. Also, you assume that each member can only tag a bill once.

Chas.
So it sounds like the only method of keeping things going is that if Dem's tag all the Repub's bills, then vice versa happens and no bills advance?

You don't kill all my bills and I won't kill all of yours.. :rules:
Mutually Assured Destruction.... The Cold War is calling and wants its Legislative procedures back. Perhaps we should consult the (200 page) Texas Constitution... :smilelol5: :smilelol5:

Re: HB1911 Com Substitute

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 3:38 pm
by bblhd672
ScottDLS wrote: Perhaps we should consult the (200 page) Texas Constitution... :smilelol5: :smilelol5:
Silly wabbit...don't you know that "rules and decorum" are more important than a crusty old document?

Re: HB1911 Com Substitute

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 3:45 pm
by Flightmare
https://empowertexans.com/features/calendars-confusion/

Found this doing some looking on the web. Helped to shed some light on the subject for those who are interested.

Re: HB1911 Com Substitute

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 4:32 pm
by Ruark
Flightmare wrote:https://empowertexans.com/features/calendars-confusion/

Found this doing some looking on the web. Helped to shed some light on the subject for those who are interested.
Very interesting article about the Calendars Committee. "....a composition of Democrats and liberal Republicans."

Re: HB1911 Com Substitute

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 4:47 pm
by thechl
The key is to get rid of strauss. But that has to happen in his San Antonio district, because he'll keep being elected as Speaker as long as he's sent to the Legislature. And since he's so loved by the rino's in his district, the only way to defeat him is to vote for the democrat there who runs against him. I know TAM is against that idea (he spanked me publicly the last time I mentioned it) but it's the only way. Sure, we'll give up one republicans seat in the House, but it will pave the way for a real republican to become Speaker! That Speaker will then appoint a more favorable Calendars. Then the republicans in that San Antonio can vote in a new republican in the following election.

Good idea, I think. ;^>

Re: HB1911 Com Substitute

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 4:49 pm
by Soccerdad1995
thechl wrote:The key is to get rid of strauss. But that has to happen in his San Antonio district, because he'll keep being elected as Speaker as long as he's sent to the Legislature. And since he's so loved by the rino's in his district, the only way to defeat him is to vote for the democrat there who runs against him. I know TAM is against that idea (he spanked me publicly the last time I mentioned it) but it's the only way. Sure, we'll give up one republicans seat in the House, but it will pave the way for a real republican to become Speaker! That Speaker will then appoint a more favorable Calendars. Then the republicans in that San Antonio can vote in a new republican in the following election.

Good idea, I think. ;^>
I think the bolded part is a matter of debate. If we lose Strauss' seat, have we really lost a "republican" seat at all?

Re: HB1911 Com Substitute

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 4:51 pm
by thechl
I agree!

Re: HB1911 Com Substitute

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 4:53 pm
by thechl
Of course each seat counts toward the majority/power party. But at this point we have a few extra to spare. Might not always be so.

Re: HB1911 Com Substitute

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 4:54 pm
by mojo84
Here is some insight on how the dems and RINOS try to sneak things in by avoiding the regular Calendar's committee and floor debate. https://empowertexans.com/under-the-dom ... orruption/

Re: HB1911 Com Substitute

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 5:00 pm
by mojo84
thechl wrote:The key is to get rid of strauss. But that has to happen in his San Antonio district, because he'll keep being elected as Speaker as long as he's sent to the Legislature. And since he's so loved by the rino's in his district, the only way to defeat him is to vote for the democrat there who runs against him. I know TAM is against that idea (he spanked me publicly the last time I mentioned it) but it's the only way. Sure, we'll give up one republicans seat in the House, but it will pave the way for a real republican to become Speaker! That Speaker will then appoint a more favorable Calendars. Then the republicans in that San Antonio can vote in a new republican in the following election.

Good idea, I think. ;^>

He has so many wealthy cronies it's going to be hard to get someone else elected. It's going to take a really strong primary candidate that is able to make the voters in Straus' district realize what a sham he is running and the grass roots will have to overcome and offset the wealthy cronies that benefit from Straus being in power.

Straus has done a masterful job of hiding his skeletons and how he engenders the "right" people to support and vote for him. Too many wealthy people are getting richer from Straus being in office.

Re: HB1911 Com Substitute

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 5:12 pm
by thechl
That's why I think holding one's nose and voting for a democrat there is the only way out.

And of course one could even use that famous democrat coverall and say "It's for the children!" hahaha

Re: HB1911 Com Substitute

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 5:14 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
In case some folks are unaware, THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE IS STILL IN SESSION!!!!!!!!!! Perhaps you might hold off condemning the folks we still need to help get bills passed. If you can't, then do it elsewhere.

Chas.

Re: HB1911 Com Substitute

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 5:26 pm
by Salty1
thechl wrote:That's why I think holding one's nose and voting for a democrat there is the only way out.

And of course one could even use that famous democrat coverall and say "It's for the children!" hahaha
Go ahead and vote for the Dem's so instead of complaining about what you did not get you can complain about what you had and lost......

Re: HB1911 Com Substitute

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 5:47 pm
by thechl
OK